Please nerf warriors, from a warrior

[Puzzlebox]

LW changes would work directly with changes to healing. I'd say given current healing status, an appropriate change is to make LW apply to single target only.

That doesn't really solve anything because there will still be a mess of warriors in every WF.

It's just another annoying variable that the devs have to consider when they balance. Do we balance for the individual warrior or do we balance for the assumption that Warriors are the new FoTM.

[ShalarLight]

Through your personal experience of course. Unless you mean you yourself have been stuck in impede at one point and there was nothing you could do about it. 0_0.



In wf? Yes. If my goal is to make you dead before I go dead, impede and mes will not be the effective tools to use.

If my goal is to prevent you from killing someone (or me) impede and mes is not the most effective tools to use.

If my goal is to prevent you from running away, because lol he isn't dead, he is
1) a rogue going throw his immunities which more than likely mean impede or lolbewilder will be useless and ex will mos likely help him.
2) a cleric healer which will have curative on himself (always) and anything you did to him CC wise outside fear or stun would more than likely for naught since...well when I run heals anything outside a stun or fear will do nothing to me.

Burst hurts though. Funny that.


Nope, very few times will impede play an major impact on non idiot and mes even less.



Usually those complaints are not pertaining to inq, and those that feel that inq should have more tools are usually comparing them to OP Pyros. Which is a bad argument.

Inq doesn't need more tool as what they have are effective enough (as well as HB being OP for a 0 point skill). But impede and bewilder still are terrible.



Stop queuing. You are wasting valuable time and making my cabs superiour snare useless, and KB the warriors I'm and trying to kill, and using useless mes on healers that you should be FFing.

lol, do some more mindless AoE, it is the pinnacle of pvp prowess. You are weak at problem solving and it shows by your consistent complaining and your hissy fit anytime people say clerics are in a good spot. How about you stop mindlessly dropping aoe on everything and breaking everyone's CC. No wonder you dont ever think clerics need to be toned down, and you just mindlessly destroy protection set up for the healers with your continuous AoE. Honestly this post says a lot about your actual pvp prowess. Just ride your gear advantage dude, as your skill set is decidedly lacking.

[Jack Burton]

Trion, your pvp is bad and you should feel bad.

It's a total cluster****.

You have OP warriors zipping around like they are masters of time and space (lol riftwalk), mages who use CC as a means to do burst damage (stupid) and rogues that are more like warrior tanks than warrior tanks.

Oh, and clerics have been rebuffed to require 3+ to kill once again.

wtg.

[Testercules]

Someone post a 2012 entry into the PVP GUIDES at the top.

I got accused of hacking this morning because no one could kill me with pocket healer Rumcokeandshots @ Seastone. Then my cat made my PC restart. Got back in at the end to see 27-1 in Codex.

I put on music when I play, it helps a lot with timing. Turn in-game sounds off.

But until then...

[Eughe]

lol, do some more mindless AoE, it is the pinnacle of pvp prowess.

If I played as terribly as it sounds like you played, I'd chuckle at this. However one can not "mindlessly aoe" with a cab and expect results.

You are weak at problem solving

Falls under the assumptions that I get into situations such as the arbitrary ones you concocted and happen to fold if I do no use the 'sound strategy' that you laid in place.


Like messing a cleric/dps combo amidst battle.

and it shows by your consistent complaining and your hissy fit anytime people say clerics are in a good spot.

So the point where I agreed that inqs were fine is me throwing a hissy fit?

Or when I called terrible CCs and imagical strats idiotic?

How about you stop mindlessly dropping aoe on everything and breaking everyone's CC.

Ouch! Ruining your lolmes with my kills? Sorry. :[

No wonder you dont ever think clerics need to be toned down,

Most suggestions calls for crippling, not toning down. Maybe if you took as much effort you use to impede and bewilder, you'd see that :L

and you just mindlessly destroy protection set up for the healers with your continuous AoE.

Lol what? What does healers have to do with anything?

Honestly this post says a lot about your actual pvp prowess. Just ride your gear advantage dude, as your skill set is decidedly lacking.

Whatever keeps you sane sweety.

However that still does not make impede and bewilder any types of good and the scenarios you stated have muh easier and plausible solutions.

Such stuff comes up when people like you argue points as if you are in a vacuum and fighting npcs as opposed to actual players.

But I'm sure you're the better pvper...thinking 1 step behind.

[Belagost]

at same prestige level, and same quality gear, i never been able to do same amount of dmg to warrior as mage. If you are a pyro mage, there is 2 things that you are doing to kill your opponent. CC them, spam fireball, when cinder pop up cast it instantly...if it crits good you might half warriors hp. I dont want to do one shot kill.

But i expect not to see 3.5k damage done to me with a single blow by a warrior even he has worse gear than me. and second shot mostly kills me. Never done that big dmg to any warrior with my burst, or fireball.

Also i wished to continue as necrolock at pvp. But that soul sucks cause your dots only ticks a little dmg to your enemies and when you cast channeling spell u will be dead in 2-3 seconds(also it's dont have good dps at pvp too)

So if you want to enjoy pvp you had to roll Champion/rift as warrior, and pyro for mage(if you wish to become dps). and with two buttons u might kill ppl with 2-3 buttons. Don't misunderstand me i still agree that warriors are OP, but there is not any souls for dps pvp souls then PYRO for mages... pls just balance all. so we can enjoy with all souls..

Healing mages: can easily ganked by backstabber rogues...and 2 second cast time spell wont help to stay alive. Cleric healers are good, but mages not if anybody aware of that you are haling your party.

[Testercules]

3.5k damage done to me with a single blow by a warrior

Stopped reading.

[montin]

It's like Trion wants Rift pvp to fail.

I dont think warriors are over powered as a class but cornered beast most certainly is. Its as bad as the marksman ammo that had 100% chance to work on aoe hits. The needed nerfing and it was. Cornered beast needs nerfing just as badly. I have full pvp gear and over 55k kills and 1 on 1, I nearly always lose against a warrior using cornered beast. And if an experienced pvper with full gear struggles to win then what hope do most other people have. And I'm writing this because of the stupid matches I'm seeing in the warfronts. The side with the most warriors win. Its as simple as that. Warfronts are now currently pointless until cornered beast gets sorted out.

[Omgerka]

I am pretty sure, there is an problem with valor and warrior dmg. Its unbelievable how big dmg from them i take now. Even low rank warrior can beat me so easily and fast. And doesnt matter if i wear hk gear or pvp gear. Good warriors was always hard enemy, but now they are almost unbeatable. This is just statement, not crying. I am an rogue and never have problem in pvp (except WFs without heals, which trion prepare for us, defiants, so frequently, but that is another story or when i personally fail with too much beers and joints in my head). Rogues was always fun and hard enemy for all classes, but now they are fall to be 2nd. Warriors owns.. So enjoy it, dear warriors, i am leaving anyway.. No new WFs, no new pvp ranks, pve in my guild fall to the zero too so bye bye ;)

[Misun]

But i expect not to see 3.5k damage done to me with a single blow by a warrior even he has worse gear than me.

Come on now..yes warriors do a ton of damage (probably a little too much right now), but if you have valor gear on, that's not a reality.

2k crits? YES, that happens..but certainly not 3.5k crits in one shot.

Again; yes warriors are wiping the floor with people right now, but 3.5 crits on valor geared opponents is not happening.

I think what happened was a combination of damage, from different abilities...next time check your combat log, I think that's what you will find.

Now..if you're wearing pve gear, with no valor...well, I don't know what to say about that. You should have valor gear on.

[Omgerka]

Come on now..yes warriors do a ton of damage (probably a little too much right now), but if you have valor gear on, that's not a reality.

2k crits? YES, that happens..but certainly not 3.5k crits in one shot.

Yes thats happen, and when i testing it, in hk gear and in pvp gear (1150val) dmg to valor was slighty lower but not with 40%+ dmg reduction.. just test it and u will see

[Fates]

Come on now..yes warriors do a ton of damage (probably a little too much right now), but if you have valor gear on, that's not a reality.

2k crits? YES, that happens..but certainly not 3.5k crits in one shot.

Again; yes warriors are wiping the floor with people right now, but 3.5 crits on valor geared opponents is not happening.

I think what happened was a combination of damage, from different abilities...next time check your combat log, I think that's what you will find.

Now..if you're wearing pve gear, with no valor...well, I don't know what to say about that. You should have valor gear on.

Actually 4k damage is possible for a warrior to do in one hit. Deathblow can absolutely hit like a truck and I have been hit by it for 4k before. I understand it is a finishing move for people below 30%, but to say hitting for that high on a warrior is not possible is not quite accurate. (Yes, I wear full valor)

[Misun]

Actually 4k damage is possible for a warrior to do in one hit. Deathblow can absolutely hit like a truck and I have been hit by it for 4k before. I understand it is a finishing move for people below 30%, but to say hitting for that high on a warrior is not possible is not quite accurate. (Yes, I wear full valor)

Yep, I stand corrected. I recently finished a wf on my bard rogue and got hit for over 3k.

Granted my rogue is only in the first set of pvp gear..but she is still in pvp gear nonetheless.

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[Swiftspell]

Warriors are so freaking OP right now to the point that it's crazy!!!

Iam running with 57% valor reduction but the warrior burst just seem to ignore that...

We had this warrior in Lib today that was killing EVERYONE he didnt even die once himself, it's crazy what trion has done to the warriors in 1.8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTXmYKpCwuI (Streaming screenshot)

In 1.7 the warrior was ballanced and ok, but now i mean CMON!!

Everybody is suffering, and the warriors in my guild think that the changes that were made to warriors in 1.8 spoiled all the fun since they got buffed to oblivion!

I DEMAND WE GET HoT STACKING WARDENS back if this go on for any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRION WAKE UP!

[Costs]

Yep, I stand corrected. I recently finished a wf on my bard rogue and got hit for over 3k.

Granted my rogue is only in the first set of pvp gear..but she is still in pvp gear nonetheless.

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Yeah, Trion ...

I don't think it was your intention to make a class that could easily solo a full heal cleric in under 5 seconds.

We just want it fixed ... or don't ... it's all the same to me soon.