Trion needs to develop PvP content

[Keota]

YOu can't just say that GW2 is around teh corner. Noone knows, except the betas' how PvP in GW2 will be. Given their success in GW, its *reasonable* to assume that PvP in GW2 will be superb and better than most other MMOs out there.

But you must understand that people who PvP will go where they have the advantage. So if 70 twinks in Rift have the advantage here, they won't leave in favor of GW2. If 250R40 PvP'ers have the advantage here, chances are they won't go to other games.

Is it reasonable to accesss that when GW2 comes out, that PvP'ers will flock to the game to try it out? Yes. And if PvP is really good there, the rift's *PvP* population will take a hit and trion will be left scrambling to figure out what to do to entice people back. Or, they will forego PvP to try and keep people will PvE.

It's a blockbuster summer coming up for MMOs, not just for PvP MMOs, but for PvE as well, and Trion is doing their best to keep what they have. If it wasn't for the fact that their game is every boring stereotype of every cookie cutter MMO out there...well..needless to say, Rift doesn't have an original bone in their body, which isn't goign to keep long term MMO players playing their game.

rift's soul tree content and versatility with soul combos will always get me to re-sub ***IF*** they can match the pvp content of other mmos. im sure everyone will stay or come back with much more content. this week alone i have had well over 10 pvp acquaintances unsub...

[Zaros]

But you must understand that people who PvP will go where they have the advantage. So if 70 twinks in Rift have the advantage here, they won't leave in favor of GW2. If 250R40 PvP'ers have the advantage here, they won't go to GW2

Haha, no

[AceinHole]

YOu can't just say that GW2 is around teh corner. Noone knows, except the betas' how PvP in GW2 will be. Given their success in GW, its *reasonable* to assume that PvP in GW2 will be superb and better than most other MMOs out there.

But you must understand that people who PvP will go where they have the advantage. So if 70 twinks in Rift have the advantage here, they won't leave in favor of GW2. If 250R40 PvP'ers have the advantage here, chances are they won't go to other games.

Nah. I admit I will have to learn a lot of **** when I go to GW2 since I've never played GW1. I will undoubtedly suck for a while until I L2P. But I don't care, the challenge will be refreshing since Rift isn't challenging much at all anymore.

Even though GW2 doesn't have a mix and match soul system like Rift, it does have its own complicated skill and ability tree with different weapons providing different abilities, etc. It also has traits, etc. which will take some time getting used to.

[ChrisN]

This thread is about Rift, not other games. Keep this thread on topic.

[AceinHole]

This thread is about Rift, not other games. Keep this thread on topic.

Sorry, but the premise of your thread is flawed. You are asking for new PvP content, right? Well, I can tell you where that will be: GW2. So it is indeed relevant to this discussion. Trion will not release new PvP content. Ever. They simply don't care. They have proven this time and again. Over and over.

Sure, they may throw us a bone with a new WF or some new cosmetic gear or something, but any meaningful content just wont happen. They may say they have stuff planned, but when GW2 releases and everyone leaves, those plans will be scratched and they will go back to focusing on PvE content 100% of the time as they have always done. Why should they bother when every PvP'er will be at GW2? If I were them, I wouldn't bother either.

[ChrisN]

Sorry, but the premise of your thread is flawed. You are asking for new PvP content, right? Well, I can tell you where that will be: GW2. So it is indeed relevant to this discussion. Trion will not release new PvP content. Ever. They simply don't care. They have proven this time and again. Over and over.

Sure, they may throw us a bone with a new WF or some new cosmetic gear or something, but any meaningful content just wont happen. They may say they have stuff planned, but when GW2 releases and everyone leaves, those plans will be scratched and they will go back to focusing on PvE content 100% of the time as they have always done. Why should they bother when every PvP'er will be at GW2? If I were them, I wouldn't bother either.

Trion, do you see this? Elrar, Daglar, Zann?

Time for PvP content.

[traccoon]

Ive seen variations of this thread dating all the way back to when the game was still in its alpha stage. The vision that trion had for pvp in rift is so far from what the pvp community wanted that most of them left and now trion is down to 3 pvp servers. its now clear the vision that trion had as far as pvp goes in rift

-non competitive
-instanced
-non persistent effects on the games world

everything they've done so far leads me to believe that this is how trion wants pvp to be like in rift so asking for new content will most likely result in content that is non competitive, instanced, and has no persistent effect on the games world.

Im not even going to mention how trion, for some reason, loves to add really powerful buffs and debuffs that proc off attacks, instead of making them abilities. lingering wounds should be a skill not a proc. same goes for vampiric munitions. Turning these attacks that have really powerful effects in pvp into skills and not chance to proc debuffs would go a real long way to adding some sort of skill to pvp

[Am0n]

But you must understand that people who PvP will go where they have the advantage. So if 70 twinks in Rift have the advantage here, they won't leave in favor of GW2. If 250R40 PvP'ers have the advantage here, chances are they won't go to other games.

Flooring on roll, assing my laugh off. Not sure if serious o.O

[Am0n]

Im not even going to mention how trion, for some reason, loves to add really powerful buffs and debuffs that proc off attacks, instead of making them abilities. lingering wounds should be a skill not a proc. same goes for vampiric munitions. Turning these attacks that have really powerful effects in pvp into skills and not chance to proc debuffs would go a real long way to adding some sort of skill to pvp

Removing Macros would go along way, 99% of the abilities 99% of the Rift Community use might as well be chance on proc off of 1 spam, since almost everyone is playing with 1 or 2 huge macros anyways.

[Rahlos]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

-Fix the Gear gap. How? Let me enlighten you.

Vengeance = AP/SP on players. Make it deal greater damage then AP/SP. But ONLY ON OTHER PLAYERS.
Valor = Buff it a bit more, but make sure Vengeance is equalized to the current valor situation.. the mages are tankish enough already.

-New toys! I want to see some new weapons, vanity armor, and trinkets to be purchased with favor.

-World PvP objectives! Lets get special quests to take over contested zones, or more PvP World events like the ones we had this event, or anything! Com'on Trion your devs are creative!

-New WFs? Seems to be on a lot of people's list.

Its not that hard to fix D: (Unless its a coding issue...)

[Tyaus]

Nah. I admit I will have to learn a lot of **** when I go to GW2 since I've never played GW1. I will undoubtedly suck for a while until I L2P. But I don't care, the challenge will be refreshing since Rift isn't challenging much at all anymore.

Even though GW2 doesn't have a mix and match soul system like Rift, it does have its own complicated skill and ability tree with different weapons providing different abilities, etc. It also has traits, etc. which will take some time getting used to.

I agree, never played GW, so I am hoping for a change and I will suck too at first.

[Zoam]

im kinda hoping for a 3 team WF.

15 vs 15 vs 15 I think would be great

all mercs of course.

[Bionitro]

Trion, do you see this? Elrar, Daglar, Zann?

Time for PvP content.

If they release something now again.. it's just like throwidng an other bone.. it won't let ppl stick around ;)


This time I unsubbed for real.. I mean they even have an Epic Dubstep song about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDikI2hTtk

Yeah, trion is definitly to late... GW2 is just around the corner...They Promised us PvP content.. and kept us waiting and waiting.... I'll go look for the bang (pvp) in my buck somewhere else that place is GW2...

and yeah GW is very relevant to this Topic.. Because if trion has a large player base that PvP's (wich they had) they could have acted upon it.. and maybe those customers would have stayed...
Well they don't and most ppl are just sitting their time out in Rift untill some bigger MMO's come out..


and all the PvE"ers and carebears will go like... aaah let them go no one needs u...

but u know what happens... shards will look more dead... untill the game is dead on it self...

QQ Pve'ers

GG trion...



Edit: Btw real pvp'ers love a challenge... meaning that I have R40 and I can roll over ppl their face doesnt give me pleasure.... So the argument of me (or any real pvper) staying because he has a gear advantage is total ********!! Better, I would be happy if those ppl that think like that stayed in rift and don't come to GW2 ;) (with all the equal gear rules in structured pvp they have there it would only result in QQ from that kind of "pvp'er")


^this is my smartest post ever xD

[ChrisN]

Keep the feedback coming, don't give up on the bombardment of posts.

Trion will bend to our will!

[Alyn]

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