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    want new kind of Warfronts? if so what kind?

    i was in the mood to make some Warfront concepts to post in the suggestion forum.

    anybody mind sharing some ideas for a new warfront design?

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    Huttball. The only good thing to come out of TOR.

    Every MMO needs to copy it.

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    I always though it would be fun to turn BG or the library into akylios' and jornaru's play ground. Waves coming from all directions, pre-nerf geysers, suffocation orbs that don't damage but still silence, mind controls on random people that don't do damage but you still have to stack or instead of getting MCed you get feared for like 6 seconds.

    Oh yeah, and to make sure warriors don't just trollololol through all of the BG mechanics- akylios' style. Waves ignore WotM and suffocating orb disarms. I guess to keep it fair, waves cannot be blinked through.

    All mechanics ignore DR if someone is on silence DR but get hit by suffocating orb, their abilities still get greyed out.

    I'm not sure if waves through knockback or stun though. I think knockback would be funnier.

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    Please no more WF, if anything they should be removing them to encourage people to leave there towns for PvP.. Instances KILL ingame open world population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Crab View Post
    Huttball. The only good thing to come out of TOR.
    Every MMO needs to copy it.
    Agreed, it was great fun (about the only thing ), i'd also like a copy of AV (i really miss that).

    Plus a lot of changed to world PVP to make it worthwhile.
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    I'd like to see a king on the hill style war front, like codex but only one control point.
    You know where the pvp daylies are on ember isle? In that temple! It would look so cool ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowboxerz View Post
    Please no more WF, if anything they should be removing them to encourage people to leave there towns for PvP.. Instances KILL ingame open world population.
    problem is, Low level players would have no way to compete with those in full R8 gear. think about it.

    it would be fun for the people that already have the gear, but for players that like PvP, and dont have the gear, will be screwed.

    thats one of the main issues I am having with WoW, on my character that I came back on. He gets nearly one shotted. I dont raid/heroic, so what is left for fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tro44 View Post
    problem is, Low level players would have no way to compete with those in full R8 gear. think about it.

    it would be fun for the people that already have the gear, but for players that like PvP, and dont have the gear, will be screwed.

    thats one of the main issues I am having with WoW, on my character that I came back on. He gets nearly one shotted. I dont raid/heroic, so what is left for fun?
    Thats why only a FEW should be kept.. Than they can grind it out like the rest of the 40's. Than again, I think the whole gear system is dumb in this game and makes it largely about gear with a grind. Player crafted for ALL gear fixes this issue.

    This is why many PvPers want a PvP toon ready like in 2 days from the day they start playing. I got mine to rank 40 prestige about 4 weeks after a sub and this was a grind. Remove the silly rank system, player crafted gear for all and that solves a few issues. You may even make the PVE/Crafters/Miners happy as well
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    -Mario Soccer. 'Nuff said.

    -Team Death Match w/ weird shenanigans like falling rocks periodically.

    -Onslaught/Another large map with lots going on in the same vein as Port Scion. This time with more lasers.

    -Reverse Capture The Flag: Escort the flag to the enemy base 3 times to kill them all. Players can kill themselves to instantly return a dropped flag instead of allowing somebody to click them (because these are bombs, not flags).

    -Some kind of perversion of Defense of the Ancients. And no, shut up, playing it on an old RTS engine doesn't do the concept justice. No, I have played it, yes I think it's cool, no I don't think we should leave it be for the above reason (IE: Screw RTS engines for an action game).

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    I miss Gears (6 vs 6), and Smugglers Den (24 vs 24) from EQ2.

    Gears is similar to Black Garden.
    Smugglers could be compared to Codex I guess... just a lot more going on, in Smugglers.

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    Ooops. Wrong link.
    Here we go.

    http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Battlegrounds_(EQ2)


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    an all r40 wf would be nice
    doesn't even have to be new just the option to join ranked

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    No new warfronts, turn port scion bonus weekends into 200 - 300 kill limit death matches and remove all pve mobs/objectives/bridge capture. The strategy is to not die.

    - employ a new and semi interesting playstyle the game hasn't used
    - a non perma change to a map many already express disinterest in and that has proven it's a pain to maintain (adjustments to mob hp levels for example)
    - Minimal resources as it doesn't (yet) require making a new map but simply changing the rulesets of an existing one, in theme with bonus weekends that usually entertain new rule sets.
    - add power-ups and things to bring people to all corners of the map to make it worthwhile.
    - Interesting map lay-out and already is big enough to house (imo) a quality death match showdown.

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    New round up of some high rank matches
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    No new warfronts, turn port scion bonus weekends into 200 - 300 kill limit death matches and remove all pve mobs/objectives/bridge capture. The strategy is to not die.

    - employ a new and semi interesting playstyle the game hasn't used
    - a non perma change to a map many already express disinterest in and that has proven it's a pain to maintain (adjustments to mob hp levels for example)
    - Minimal resources as it doesn't (yet) require making a new map but simply changing the rulesets of an existing one, in theme with bonus weekends that usually entertain new rule sets.
    - add power-ups and things to bring people to all corners of the map to make it worthwhile.
    - Interesting map lay-out and already is big enough to house (imo) a quality death match showdown.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Not a bad idea, overall, but I wouldn't make it a bonus weekend thing.

    The problem I see is that death match style battles are heavily gear dependent. Because of this, no one under, say, rank 30 will bother queuing up because all they'd be doing is giving free points to the opposition.

    I'd also think that anyone above rank 30 would not want the 30 and under crowd joining either because of the same reason. They'd feel that under 30's would be nothing more than dead weight and would only handing the opposition free points.

    Make it a separate WF. Run it full time if you want. But making it a weekend bonus WF would only cause a lot of drama.

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    I tend to like the longer Warfronts that involve a chain of objectives... like AV in WoW. Scion is really the only version of this we have, and it's pretty small scale comparatively.

    I also like the path progression of AV... where holding strongholds benefits you while taking out the opponents strongholds weakens them. Again, Scion is really all we have in regards to this... and it's fairly small scale.

    Of the warfronts we have now, my favorites are Codex and Whitefall Steppes, both regular and Escalation. I dont' mind Black Garden, but I hate Stockpile. Scion is old. Library is built for mages and Marksmen, if you're not one of those.. it's kind of lame and I rarely queue up for it.

    Fortress Assaults are generally fun in my opinion as well.

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