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    So with confirmation from Trion that we are infact getting leader boards for PvP and Pve. What do you want to see on the boards? Kills of course but will there be "Total time defending Codex"? It would be nice to see people that do objectives more than just roam around and get KB's

    Oh yeah Article it was confirmed in is

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...8-Preview.html

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    Leaderboards?

    But MMAC already has a website...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brinath View Post
    So with confirmation from Trion that we are infact getting leader boards for PvP and Pve. What do you want to see on the boards? Kills of course but will there be "Total time defending Codex"? It would be nice to see people that do objectives more than just roam around and get KB's

    Oh yeah Article it was confirmed in is

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...8-Preview.html
    By ''Total time defending the Codex'' do you mean ''moron who AFK at codex whilst he loses the other 3 capture points''?
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    Biggest AFKers (time spent in WFs compared to damage/healing out/in, etc)

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    Leaderboards brings more Bunzys.

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    Leaderboards would only make sense if there were some semblance of balance in PVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Pilgrim View Post
    Leaderboards would only make sense if there were some semblance of balance in PVP.
    This and if there was some sort of organized PvP.

    Leaderboards are going to end being nothing more than epeen measurements. Tracking kills, damage, and other related stats does not indicate how well you did in WF's, it measures your Rambo level.

    Tracking wins and losses is also half useless because whether you win or lose is more often than not decided by RNG.

    Did you get lucky enough to be put against a crap team?
    Did you get lucky enough to have a few people on your team that can tell the difference between an objective from the elbow?
    Were you unlucky enough to get the opposite of the above?
    There's also...
    How many of your opponents did you beat because of gear disparity?
    How many were already low on HP's when you attacked them?

    Basically, without some semblance of balance and without some form of organized PvP, leaderboards are going to be pretty much useless when trying to measure how well someone PvP's.

    Personally, I'd rather they put less effort into this and put more effort into content.
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    I am guessing a lot of it will be based on achievements that are already in game? Just a guess..

    Would be neat to see:

    - Time spent in xxx warfronts, pvp rift, whatever
    - Win/loss %
    - Time to next prestige rank based on previous progress
    - Total time played in PvP
    - # of objectives taken/captured/held
    - Total favor gained
    - K/D ratio?
    - Savior/juggernaut/killing spree stats
    - Weekly/monthly/lifetime leaders in various stats

    I'm sure there are more...
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    KB's are easily stolen and with a Leader board you will need a "Vulture" category which will allow people to see who is stealing the most KB's
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    Leaderboards will be extremely dumb.
    afk tera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rantology View Post
    Leaderboards will be extremely dumb.
    True, but if they are going to be implemented mine as well get what we want on them instead of letting Trions people decide what they will be keeping stats for.
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    Let's see real Rift specific stats:


    Healers: average deaths on their team per wf...
    : number of successfull cleanses in a match, or a ratio per total GCD used.

    Support: number of successful debuffs per match or again ratio per gcd use
    : number of enemy self inflicted status effects per GCD (TI/MB)

    All: number of successfull CC's per match (not blocked by immunity)
    : buffs purged per match
    : K/D ratio
    : average total damage taken per wf (different stat for each wf)
    : average total damage taken per life (excluding damage taken from holding stones)

    I could go on all day from the perspective of GM of a PvP only guild, and what I care about when looking at what really matters when say, sorting players based on talent instead of gear/class based stats, for recruiting in a guild. Things that I mentioned tell me how well that player plays with a team.

    I'm hoping it's not wasted on the basic, wins, losses, kb's, dps, hps, because those stats in all practicality in wf's are useless unless you can confine a wf to not have pugs drop in on a premade




    I'm sure it will be a unanimous cry that Trion really and seriously consult us, as well as the leaders in the pvp community to seriously get something great out of this, because the right stats need to be shown. If not, a flop of said leader board with poor representation willend met with a lot of chaos and a general rejection from just about everyone who is in the camp that they want to see this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menaace View Post
    Let's see real Rift specific stats:


    Healers: average deaths on their team per wf...
    : number of successfull cleanses in a match, or a ratio per total GCD used.

    Support: number of successful debuffs per match or again ratio per gcd use
    : number of enemy self inflicted status effects per GCD (TI/MB)

    All: number of successfull CC's per match (not blocked by immunity)
    : buffs purged per match
    : K/D ratio
    : average total damage taken per wf (different stat for each wf)
    : average total damage taken per life (excluding damage taken from holding stones)

    I could go on all day from the perspective of GM of a PvP only guild, and what I care about when looking at what really matters when say, sorting players based on talent instead of gear/class based stats, for recruiting in a guild. Things that I mentioned tell me how well that player plays with a team.

    I'm hoping it's not wasted on the basic, wins, losses, kb's, dps, hps, because those stats in all practicality in wf's are useless unless you can confine a wf to not have pugs drop in on a premade




    I'm sure it will be a unanimous cry that Trion really and seriously consult us, as well as the leaders in the pvp community to seriously get something great out of this, because the right stats need to be shown. If not, a flop of said leader board with poor representation willend met with a lot of chaos and a general rejection from just about everyone who is in the camp that they want to see this.
    Those metrics aren't any bettert than the standard ones (outside of perhaps cleanses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBidnis View Post
    KB's are easily stolen and with a Leader board you will need a "Vulture" category which will allow people to see who is stealing the most KB's
    No such thing as KB stealing in Rift.

    How often do we see someone at 100 hp be magically full health 2 seconds later? In Rift, until someone's completely dead, nothing's for sure.

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