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Thread: Guild Banners and PvP. Do they belong?

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    Default Guild Banners and PvP. Do they belong?

    I recently encountered a twink group in the level 19's running around and dropping guild banners in level 10-19 PvP. Given that they are already twinked to the teeth, dropping guild banners that increase HP's by 400 as well as attack and SP by 50 gives quite an unfair advantage to the 'twinked' side.

    After having read so many threads about *twinking* and how absolutely fantastic it is (obviously to you who are twinking out) I don't complain about the gear that they have, the whetstones they have, or teh trinkets, AS THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE BY ALL. While many people who are new to the game don't understand this, I do.

    What makes guild banners in 10-49 PvP unfair is that not everyone has access to a guild, particularly one that high of level to give you such a high rating on your banners. Guild banners, imho, do not belong in low level PvP. If you wanna bust em out in 50 PvP and get yourself soem prestige, be my guest, but for low levels, especially if it is their first experience playing PvP in this game, it is discouraging and disheartening. Having teh other team farming you as you drop off your spawn point....not so cool.

    I, for one, have been discouraged. I know, you're all so sorry I am leaving. /sarcasm off

    Still, my point on this being is that everyone can have access to PvP gear, whetstones, armor plating, trinkets, potions, yadda, yadda, but not everyone has access to the heaps of money a guild banner costs, or a guild to begin with to chuck around in a match. *that* is the lop-sidedness that doesn't need to be brought to PvP in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevikolady View Post
    Still, my point on this being is that everyone can have access to PvP gear, whetstones, armor plating, trinkets, potions, yadda, yadda, but not everyone has access to the heaps of money a guild banner costs, or a guild to begin with to chuck around in a match. *that* is the lop-sidedness that doesn't need to be brought to PvP in this game.
    Combat banner is 25g which is nothing, especially with making money from WFs.
    And everyone has access to guilds. Nothing is stopping you from joining one, except yourself.

    'Lopsidedness' is a part of the RPGs in mmorpgs, additionally it's twinking which by it's very nature is about getting a ridiculous gear advantage.

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    I believe Combat Banners are 1p each.

    Does seem weird that they still give full bonus - 400 HP and 50AP/SP at level 19 is quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    I believe Combat Banners are 1p each.

    Does seem weird that they still give full bonus - 400 HP and 50AP/SP at level 19 is quite a bit.
    Yes, 1p each.

    To the 1st replier, only the guild rally scrolls are 25g.

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    Oh didn't even notice since they're still so cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    Oh didn't even notice since they're still so cheap.
    For a level 19?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    For a level 19?
    The twinks all have level 50s
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    For a level 19?
    level 19 twink, nope, which is who you are upset with using them.

    Twinks use gear that isn't accessible by all, or at least a normal level 19 in normal progression. Thats the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    level 19 twink, nope, which is who you are upset with using them.
    Yes, that's the point lol

    I don't PvP in the level 19 (or any sub-50 bracket), but this just doesn't sound right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    Yes, that's the point lol

    I don't PvP in the level 19 (or any sub-50 bracket), but this just doesn't sound right.
    No, the point was the OP thinks level 19 twinks use gear that can be attained by any normal progression 19, except for guild banners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    No, the point was the OP thinks level 19 twinks use gear that can be attained by any normal progression 19, except for guild banners.
    I meant it was my point.

    Are you arguing just to argue? Either way, guild banners giving full effect to a level 19 with, in a sense, limited access to them isn't right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya802 View Post
    I meant it was my point.

    Are you arguing just to argue? Either way, guild banners giving full effect to a level 19 with, in a sense, limited access to them isn't right.
    Why though?
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    Coin sinking your way to an advantage should always be possible. It doesn't give you a guaranteed win. I just had some rogue in my bracket with both combat banners on, and full buffs. My no-banners, self-buffs, out-dpd's him by 9k in a full pug 10-19. I was single targeting majority of the time.
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    twinking is wrong and we all know it... it's supposed to be a learning curve (while leveling ur char)

    that learning curve is in wf's not different!

    ppl like to learn a class in pvp by starting up slowly... not get roflstomped from level 10 till R25...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaceboots View Post
    Why though?
    How much HP does a twink level 19 have? 2k? 2.5k? 400 is a pretty big boost on top of an already dominate player.

    At level 50, you have no excuse to be in full greens, but at level 19, for people just questing to that point, it could be a nightmare.
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