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    Default Rogues are not OP

    Try versing a mage or cleric who knows what they are doing.

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    The only class that is saying Rogues aren't OP are rogues themselves. All the other classes are saying that they are. You are due for a nerf.

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    The only thing they should do is fix the bug that is causing VM and FB to work with AoE.

    For everything else, all of these whiners should take the advice they've been giving to Rogues since release. "The good <Mages,Warriors,Clerics> I know are doing fine, sounds like a l2play issue."
    Even free cost too much now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Credo View Post
    The only thing they should do is fix the bug that is causing VM and FB to work with AoE.

    For everything else, all of these whiners should take the advice they've been giving to Rogues since release. "The good <Mages,Warriors,Clerics> I know are doing fine, sounds like a l2play issue."
    well stated. a few things need to be re-tuned with rogues, i.e. FB and VM. other than that, people that are complaining are ******edly bad. my mates R8 warrior still cleans house. granted, he runs a pocket healer, but whats stopping everyone else that is QQing to run pockets?

    too many bad bad players
    Rogues do it from behind

    Shunpo <Goon Squad> R8 Rogue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunzy View Post
    Try versing a mage or cleric who knows what they are doing.
    I tried many times this weekend and this happened...

    http://i.imgur.com/pGmUQ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/1iCF7.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Vf3ai.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Lq7pq.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/2LlUx.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/H9oDF.jpg

    A little bit of this...

    http://i.imgur.com/Ca1nJ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/g4jdT.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/0yQeP.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/e0Hok.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/ogCVZ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/84nLb.jpg

    And this...

    http://i.imgur.com/EWjKV.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/3Cqbj.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Y2Kpg.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/PSocK.jpg

    Note: All of these screenshots were taken while I solo Q'd. No Bloodthirsty, , no pocket heals, no premades helping me (in fact, several of these screenies had Guradian premades Q sync'ing).

    It's not the class, it's the player.


    I even have one with you in it, Bunzy...

    http://i.imgur.com/Ny2Gs.jpg

    If you spent less time QQ'ing on the forums AND in-game, maybe you'd do much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarbane View Post
    The only class that is saying Rogues aren't OP are rogues themselves. All the other classes are saying that they are. You are due for a nerf.
    Rogues aren't OP (compared to the other classes). They just got brought to par with the other 3 OP classes. You and many others are now QQ'ing because you're not used to Rogues tearing sh*t up (I've been doing it since beta, but that's me). Like I said, it's the player, not the class.

    There are unfair and OP skills in ALL callings now, not just Warrior, Mage, and Cleric classes. If Rogues could instant burst heal for 3k - 4k+ every 10 seconds or less like Mages and Clerics can, then yeah, Rogues would need a nerf. But they can't.
    Last edited by Click; 10-02-2011 at 09:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Click View Post
    I tried many times this weekend and this happened...

    http://i.imgur.com/pGmUQ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/1iCF7.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Vf3ai.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Lq7pq.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/2LlUx.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/H9oDF.jpg

    A little bit of this...

    http://i.imgur.com/Ca1nJ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/g4jdT.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/0yQeP.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/e0Hok.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/ogCVZ.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/84nLb.jpg

    And this...

    http://i.imgur.com/EWjKV.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/3Cqbj.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/Y2Kpg.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/PSocK.jpg

    Note: All of these screenshots were taken while I solo Q'd. No Bloodthirsty, no premades helping me (in fact, several of these screenies had Guradian premades Q sync'ing), no pocket heals.

    It's not the class, it's the player.


    I even have one with you, Bunzy...

    http://i.imgur.com/Ny2Gs.jpg

    If you spent less time QQ'ing on the forums AND in-game, maybe you'd do much better.



    Rogues aren't OP (compared to the other classes). They just got brought to par with the other 3 OP classes. You and many others are now QQ'ing because you're not used to Rogues tearing sh*t up (I've been doing it since beta, but that's me). Like I said, it's the player, not the class.

    There are unfair and OP skills in ALL callings now, not just Warrior, Mage, and Cleric classes. If Rogues could instant burst heal for 3k - 4k+ every 10 seconds or less like Mages and Clerics can, then yeah, Rogues would need a nerf. But they can't.
    Bravo, Click, you do so well only because you are the best rogue playing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asynchritus View Post
    Bravo, Click, you do so well only because you are the best rogue playing!
    Why thank you kind sir!
    Last edited by Click; 10-02-2011 at 09:08 PM.

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    I would say things are bordering on just fine. I got f-ing destroyed by a WAR with 8900hp in 4 seconds, think it was a ragestorm build. At first it didn't seem like either of us was doing much, but all of a sudden i was dead and he still had like 6k health. It wasn't an ideal initiation of combat and I don't think he had any help. If I had room to kite, or at least started from range maybe it would have been different, but as it was, I got my face melted. I don't feel OP, but I don't feel like a wet noodle either, and that's how it should be, no? I say give it some time, let people adjust, and then see how things are.

    As long as there is more than one player, PvP will be imbalanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Click View Post
    Why thank you kind sir!
    Try versing does not mean getting more kbs or dmg then them in wfs o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunzy View Post
    Try versing does not mean getting more kbs or dmg then them in wfs o.O
    I've "versed" all of the top Guardian PvP'ers in this game at one point or another. And I've done just fine against all of them, before 1.5 hit. Now, it's even easier to "verse" good / great players as a Rogue.

    Again, stop QQ'ing so much on the forums and especially in-game. You're wasting a slot on the team when all you do is cry in /raid half the match.

    Rogue has always been fine. They're better than fine these days. In fact, they're somewhat OP like the other 3 classes. So in a way, all 4 classes are balanced. It's YOU, the player who is sucking, not the class.
    Last edited by Click; 10-02-2011 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunzy View Post
    Try versing a mage or cleric who knows what they are doing.
    Your the only person who can't play a game and win in God Mode. Seriously, you should take up Pokemon cards or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Credo View Post
    The only thing they should do is fix the bug that is causing VM and FB to work with AoE.

    For everything else, all of these whiners should take the advice they've been giving to Rogues since release. "The good <Mages,Warriors,Clerics> I know are doing fine, sounds like a l2play issue."
    Not a bug l2p

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    you all think that rogues requires no skill -.- try playing rogue instead before all you guys say its OP. I am here because what they have done to the rogue in the past( making it weak) I learned through hardship! and this paved way to my skill, now that there is 1.5 patch, I am like a pro now at handling my character and that is because of my skill that I trained when it was 1.3 patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin2BeRogue View Post
    you all think that rogues requires no skill -.- try playing rogue instead before all you guys say its OP. I am here because what they have done to the rogue in the past( making it weak) I learned through hardship! and this paved way to my skill, now that there is 1.5 patch, I am like a pro now at handling my character and that is because of my skill that I trained when it was 1.3 patch.
    Your a pro because your character has the highest damage, highest mobility, self healing and survivability cooldowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarbear View Post
    Your the only person who can't play a game and win in God Mode. Seriously, you should take up Pokemon cards or something.
    I can name players that no rogue can beat.


    and no im not going to name them before you ask because it's not my place to do so.


    but if you come against them you might as well run away.
    Last edited by Bunzy; 10-02-2011 at 10:21 PM.

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