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    Default HEALING Debuff! Dispell-able or not? in 1.5

    As topic says, but more specific:


    Currenly diffrent classes have "diffrent" healing debuffs.

    Warriors have some with a few seconds cooldowns but is not dispellable, and they can kinda keep it 100% uptime on target they decide to kill.

    Rogues have a poison wich proccs on the target they attack, procrate is decent and enough, but not 100% on first hit AND its dispell-able

    Mages have blight, not the best one, but also dispell-able. Thou the mage is still able to heal trough to survive an rogue atleast.

    Clerics have none healing debuff. Can heal trough easely aswell to survive, easyer than a mage can.



    My question is:

    Will ALL healing debuffs be able to dispell in the new patch? Or will you keep it unfair by letting warriors have a 100% uptime on their healing debuff wich cannot be dispelled and rogues keep getting dispelled everytime they face a player wich knows its dispell-able?

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    Mages have a 25% non dispellable healdebuff. Withered Veins, I'm not saying its good, but you can have it at 100% up time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftly View Post
    Mages have a 25% non dispellable healdebuff. Withered Veins, I'm not saying its good, but you can have it at 100% up time.
    Requires prestige 5(?) though. And hardly viable for any decent spec. Warriors (and now rogues in MM) have good heal debuffs very low in their trees while mages and clerics get nothing. This is a disparity that needs to be fixed, either by making heal debuffs far less accesible or equally accesible to all (preferably as a pvp tree root).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vayra View Post
    Requires prestige 5(?) though. And hardly viable for any decent spec. Warriors (and now rogues in MM) have good heal debuffs very low in their trees while mages and clerics get nothing. This is a disparity that needs to be fixed, either by making heal debuffs far less accesible or equally accesible to all (preferably as a pvp tree root).
    Void shroud?

    Not to mention Blight is the best healdebuff in the game. It owns warden's so hard, and we all know how much people love crying about Wardens.

    Oh, I dont think Cleric should get a heal debuff. Would give them more incentive to DPS, when in reality we need them as heals.
    Last edited by Swiftly; 09-17-2011 at 04:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftly View Post
    Void shroud?

    Not to mention Blight is the best healdebuff in the game. It owns warden's so hard, and we all know how much people love crying about Wardens.
    Void Shroud is decent, but it can be cleansed and cannot be maintained on more than 1 target at once. It also necessitates a dom build, which are fun specs but not a heavy dps spec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vayra View Post
    Void Shroud is decent, but it can be cleansed and cannot be maintained on more than 1 target at once. It also necessitates a dom build, which are fun specs but not a heavy dps spec.
    How is that different from Rogue healdebuff? Ours is completely proc reliant, and they can be purged from the Rogue, making us waste a GCD reapplying a buff.

    The MM munition can only be applied to 1 target at a time. Just, fyi.

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    I dont agree that cleric or mages should have healing debuff thou. They have heals to keep them up and enough defenses to keep them self alive for a long time (if you are not noob).

    Anyhow, back to topic, will it change or didnt trion have any thoughts about how OP it is to have a healing debuff wich is not dispell-able wich ONLY the most currenly OP class can use? Or will all healing debuffs be equal fair instead? either all should be dispell-able or none...

    Imo the healing debuffs shouldnt be able to get dispelled, atleast not that easy, maby add stacks to rogues healing debuff if you want to keep it dispellable.

    Example:
    Rogue healing debuff poison - proccrate (same as now) adds debuff on target, each proccs adds ONE stack. Max Stack FIVE..

    That makes atleast rogue healing debuff dispellable BUT more difficult than current wich is dispelled instant without any issues..

    I hope some serious trion employed is reading this. Ive been pvping in mmorpg for like 9 years now. I know how things work, I KNOW that healing debuff is an extremely important spell for an class like Rogue and Warrior to be able to kill a healer at all.

    Pvp is not only about group. Its also many 1v1 situations. Because of healing debuff is dispell-able, several HEALERS are kicking the s**t out of most rogues (talking about the equal players vs eachother). Do you find that "fair"? Because I dont.

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    Mage necros also have a healing debuff:

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    Reduces any healing the enemy receives by 30% for 60 seconds. Causes undead pets to heal the pet owner for 18 health each time the pet deals damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socka View Post

    Ive been pvping in mmorpg for like 9 years now.
    Based on your writing it seems that for you to have been pvping in mmorpgs for 9 years you would have to have been pvping before you had ever started attending kindergarten. Impressive.

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    Clerics have a healing debuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seether View Post
    Based on your writing it seems that for you to have been pvping in mmorpgs for 9 years you would have to have been pvping before you had ever started attending kindergarten. Impressive.
    where are the commas smart guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TActiks View Post
    where are the commas, smart guy?
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    Right there.
    Last edited by Eughe; 09-17-2011 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seether View Post
    Based on your writing it seems that for you to have been pvping in mmorpgs for 9 years you would have to have been pvping before you had ever started attending kindergarten. Impressive.
    Based on youre reply to this topic it seems that you are an kid trying to make fun of others for no reason, wich is childish.

    You know, everyone dont know the english language perfectly. I might not explain perfectly, but apperenly you aint smart enough to understand.

    If you are not intrested in joining the discussion about the topic, dont bother writing here. Thanks!

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    LOL want to see some real sad faces? Think of what would happen if they reduced AOE and direct healing by even 25% in PVP. That said fair is fair. Any Debuff should be capable of being dispelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftly View Post
    Void shroud?

    Not to mention Blight is the best healdebuff in the game. It owns warden's so hard, and we all know how much people love crying about Wardens.

    Oh, I dont think Cleric should get a heal debuff. Would give them more incentive to DPS, when in reality we need them as heals.
    Not really, a cleric healer is a liability and a waste of space nowadays. Gotta have bards and chloro/locks, because you can't heal when dead.

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