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    Default What was the point of nerfing heals in PvP if you keep nerfing every other class DPS?

    What was the point of nerfing heals in PvP if you keep nerfing every other class DPS? Your just going around in circles again.

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    I honestly havent noticed any healing nerf. 1 or 2 skills and a cleric or mage is back to full on top of a 50% healing debuff from skills.

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    Oooo I know this answer!

    They want the damage in PVP to be more 'fair'. In PVE, you need your damage to be sky high, but against players that don't have the 1 million hitpoints life bar, well, that damage is a bit insane to heal *especially after the heal nerfs*.

    Therefore, damage must be toned down. A dedicated healer SHOULD be able to keep one person alive against 1-2 dps.

    As it stands, they can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezeray View Post
    Oooo I know this answer!

    They want the damage in PVP to be more 'fair'. In PVE, you need your damage to be sky high, but against players that don't have the 1 million hitpoints life bar, well, that damage is a bit insane to heal *especially after the heal nerfs*.

    Therefore, damage must be toned down. A dedicated healer SHOULD be able to keep one person alive against 1-2 dps.

    As it stands, they can't.
    Only if they suck. There are plenty of good healers
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    They have to change things to keep people happy. Nerfs are the obvious way to make MORE people happy.

    If you buff a class everyone else gets upset by the power shift. If you nerf a class a small amount of people will be upset while the majority of people(everyone who wasnt nerfed) will be happy about it. Thats why game designers try to nerf their way to balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryce View Post
    What was the point of nerfing heals in PvP if you keep nerfing every other class DPS? Your just going around in circles again.
    The point is that it does make a difference. Even if you nerf both damage and healing by exactly the same amount, you have changed balance and how fast people die / how well they can be kept alive.
    Unless you nerf healthpools by the same amount too.

    People complained a lot about being bursted down too fast, maybe Trion is trying to address that.
    Or not.. who knows, sometimes it looks like even they don't.
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    Healing nerf was really not that bad.
    You hear the spoil easymode healers cried.
    The good ones keep on healing and i still have a hard to trying to kill even with 50 percent heal debuff.
    Last edited by Stabsalot; 08-12-2011 at 03:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartzekar View Post
    Only if they suck. There are plenty of good healers
    Not when Lingering Wounds and Anathema stack. Then it doesn't matter how good you are. Healing Invocation hit for 186 today. ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX! I don't care if they were level 40 much less 2 R6 dps.. that target was going to die.

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    They're balancing for the majority. The game is sunk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabsalot View Post
    Healing nerf was really not that bad.
    You hear the spoil easymode healers cried.
    The good ones keep on healing and i still have a hard to trying to kill even with 50 percent heal debuff.
    The good rogues don't dont have issues with the best healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryce View Post
    What was the point of nerfing heals in PvP if you keep nerfing every other class DPS? Your just going around in circles again.
    The nerfing of dps is actually a direct result of the nerfing of heals. Trion has shown that most changes they do they do in stages. You change one mechanic, see how the change effects connected mechanics, then change these connected mechanics as needed. They ren't going around in circles. The point of the heal change was not to let dps pwn heal, it was the first step in creating seperate PvP mechanics across the board, to include dps.
    Last edited by Galibier; 08-12-2011 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    They're balancing for the majority. The game is sunk
    ^ what he said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    They're balancing for the majority. The game is sunk
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    on a side not they can f up the game as much as they like i was always leaving when gw2 comes out regardless, and i'm sure its either that or swtor for the majority of the rift playerbase
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