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    Default Please Remove Damage Reflects from the Game

    i'm sure this will fall on deaf ears and be flamed to hell but...

    damage reflects which are fire and forget have no place in PVP They sound good on paper but in reality they take zero skill and punish PVPers for what they're supposed to be doing. Take them out please. What exactly are you supposed to do, stop attacking while your opponent while they wail the crap out of you and/or heal up to full?

    You might as well lump reactive abilities that fire automatically into that category as well. If a skill lights up and becomes useable then hey fine but to automatically fire, that's bad design IMO.

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    Such as?

    There is a difference between armors that do damage and reflects.

    Most reflects are short duration single reflect...which require timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusDancer View Post
    Such as?

    There is a difference between armors that do damage and reflects.

    Most reflects are short duration single reflect...which require timing.
    He's probably referring to Mass Betrayal. One of the many horrendous balancing issues in dominator.
    Along with their ability to instantly 0 a clerics mana, but mana drains being worthless against other mages.
    RNG split personality crit instant kills, etc.

    Warlock armor doesn't come to mind as being obnoxious like mass broketrayal.
    Last edited by Valanceer; 08-11-2011 at 02:01 PM.

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    the ones you have to time right have a place, they're skill based and this belongs in PVP. Riftblades have one, warlock armor is annoying as well. I think you would be surprised by just how much damage these things add up to and it adds zero to the skill cap of a class. But yes, mass betrayal is broken as well.
    Last edited by Stoutrift; 08-11-2011 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valanceer View Post
    He's probably referring to Mass Betrayal. One of the many horrendous balancing issues in dominator.
    Along with their ability to instantly 0 a clerics mana, but mana drains being worthless against other mages.
    RNG split personality crit instant kills, etc.

    Warlock armor doesn't come to mind as being obnoxious like mass broketrayal.
    I don't understand how you would place mass betrayal under the category of "damage reflects" since mass betrayal doesn't "reflect" any damage. Nice way to try to turn this into a nerf dominator thread though.

    There are abilities that do reflect spells and some melee can reflect melee attacks.
    Last edited by Seether; 08-11-2011 at 02:16 PM.

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    On my warrior alt i got a rogue to kill himself with his stealth opener using predicitable movements (melee reflect) once. It was really funny so please don't take it out of the game

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    Curse of Solitude, Curse of Discord, Traitorous Influence, Mass Betrayal, Rift Surge, Scales of Justice, Predictable Movements etc...

    ...are fun against the one button macro mashers that do not pay attention.
    Last edited by VirusDancer; 08-11-2011 at 02:34 PM.
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