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    Default why are heal debuffs or mana burns not subject to diminishing returns?

    as the title suggests.
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    no one wants to comment?
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    In the current form of "apply incurable heal debuff by proc" they could probably use a DR.

    Ideally, they would change them all to the way things like Void Shroud, Anathema, and other cd based 1 target at a time heal debuffs are - where you have to make a conscious decision to apply it, instead of wailing on your macro. Then, they wouldn't need one.

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    i don't think they are inherently op, but this idea kind of makes sense
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    They are not on diminishing returns because they are situational and not spammable.
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    I'm down for healing debuff on a dr if it means healing has a dr. Meaning your third spell heal for 0. k thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisian View Post
    They are not on diminishing returns because they are situational and not spammable.
    Lingering Wounds Proc? Might as well be spammable. Heck I'd like it to be a GCD instead of a Proc because you would get 600 to 1k damage out of the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisian View Post
    They are not on diminishing returns because they are situational and not spammable.
    you're about to tell me that healing debuffs aren't spammable?

    what crack are you on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoJagFan View Post
    Lingering Wounds Proc? Might as well be spammable. Heck I'd like it to be a GCD instead of a Proc because you would get 600 to 1k damage out of the charge.

    stop complaining about LW, its specific to a soul tree aka champ. just like healing is stuck to specific tree.


    u say hybrid? well hybrid cleric/mages are op as hell too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basementvirgin View Post
    I'm down for healing debuff on a dr if it means healing has a dr. Meaning your third spell heal for 0. k thanks.
    this makes absolutely 0 sense.

    why would healing have a dr if healing debuffs would have a dr.

    healing shouldn't ever be penalized. much the same as dps should never be penalized (which it isn't).
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylictal View Post
    you're about to tell me that healing debuffs aren't spammable?

    what crack are you on?
    You're about to tell me critical hits are spammable?

    what crack are you on?

    I laid out an iron clad statement of truth. Anyone contesting it is just going to look like a fool.

    It's a fact you cannot spam crits or mana drains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylictal View Post
    this makes absolutely 0 sense.

    why would healing have a dr if healing debuffs would have a dr.

    healing shouldn't ever be penalized. much the same as dps should never be penalized (which it isn't).
    have you ever try to 3v1 a healing cleric? he just doesnt die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basementvirgin View Post
    have you ever try to 3v1 a healing cleric? he just doesnt die.
    i'm dying 1v1 after this patch.

    and it doesn't matter which healing spec i go.

    warriors out right kill me.
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    mana burn does nothing to someone with no mana, there's your DR.

    healing debuff (exception to that one put on by the class is just fine this patch) can be dispelled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisian View Post
    You're about to tell me critical hits are spammable?

    what crack are you on?

    I laid out an iron clad statement of truth. Anyone contesting it is just going to look like a fool.

    It's a fact you cannot spam crits or mana drains.
    yes, i am telling you that with warriors, healing debuff has a 100% uptime.

    and yet, you don't find this disturbing?

    you REALLY want to contest this with me?
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