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Thread: Reduce critical damage in 1.3 is a big mistake Trion !

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    Thumbs down Reduce critical damage in 1.3 is a big mistake Trion !

    It is some of the bad changes pvp can have in 1.3. Now HEALING classes will be even more OP than are now, and the difference from players with valor and without valor will be astronomical in terms of pvp..
    This change at valor should not go live in 1.3 it will be a hard hit for all pvp'ers...

    PS : One of the biggest mistake that wow made was resilience and arena....Trion should learn from other mistakes.Damage reduce yea it may be ok with valor ,but crit damage to be reduce ,is a very bad move...
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    I don't think changing p6 to 40% would be bad really/ But the whole crit reduction for non valor gear toons is redonk, not sure where they came up with doing this will be a good idea. I frequent the forums and they couldn't have come up with these conclusions from player feedback. I do agree on making crit reduction for p6 toons with valor though for the reason that a p6 geared toon shouldn't be one shotted by a p6 pyro but why not just nerf fulminate damage? Have to test it, I have been skeptical of other changes they did but once tested I liked. So we shall see.

    Anywho I'm already p6 so /godmode on
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    Quote Originally Posted by inaliz View Post
    why not just nerf fulminate damage?
    Why screw-over PVErs for PVP, nerf PVP skills/souls leave PVE content alone!

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    Who cares about pve damage lol just kill the mob. If needed reduce the enrage timer. Whoopdydoo. This is the pvp forum btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerin View Post
    Why screw-over PVErs for PVP, nerf PVP skills/souls leave PVE content alone!
    I can see they buff pvp gear only because huge damage of mages ,and it is sad. All dps classes will have to suffer..

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    If I had to guess, they're trying to make PvP gear not <i>entirely</i> worthless by improving Valor effectiveness.
    I still think raid gear will completely crush PvP gear, but at least it was an attempt.

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    Rank 6 Cleric will need a whole raid to take down after 1.3 is release!
    This game is getting more dumber in every patch.

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    They will gut archmage offensive soul with this patch...and..burning witch stones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riftrules View Post
    Rank 6 Cleric will need a whole raid to take down after 1.3 is release!
    This game is getting more dumber in every patch.
    Yes ..this bs change will make rank 6 geared clerics ( already op ) ..just raid bosses.Trion WAKE up before is to late ,those things we speak about are obvious ,if u let these changes go live u should nerf self heals VERY hard..

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    Critical hits should be taken out of the game altogether. Stop letting RNG decide the outcome of battles. All MMO's make this mistake. D&D tabletop made this mistake. No more critical hits!!! (Critical heals too, all of it, anything that rquires a dice roll).
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    It was known since beta its gonna be rollercoaster, have fun! IF you idiots think this game is ever going to have good/balanced PVP you're out of your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by June View Post
    It was known since beta its gonna be rollercoaster, have fun! IF you idiots think this game is ever going to have good/balanced PVP you're out of your mind.
    Its never i mean NEVER possible to balance mmo games perfectly. Only chance is to make 1 class with 1 specc. then it would be balanced but when u got alot speccs / souls classes and diffrent abilities it isnt possible to balance.

    Wow isnt near that or any other mmos

    Also this change is stupid. And myself i dont like dmg reduction on pvp (like valor). I want to see big crits but its problem when some classes would be able to 1 shot ppl. Higher hp pool would give u chance to survive
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    Quit crying about Clerics. You have the following to counter them, not to mention single target damage already without Valor is 45.6% higher than single target healing, while AoEs from Stormcaller do 74.8% more damage, than any healing soul can group heal.

    -- 30% - 75% Heal Reduction; Yes, the Dominator can reduce healing by 75%.
    -- A ton of purges; No, the Marksman isn't the only class that can purge. Yes, they're VERY effective against all healing classes.
    -- Blight; which strips ALL heal over times, regardless of how many are on a target, and grants a 50% heal reduction to boot. Say what?
    -- Burst DPS, which varies from a single player in the amounts of 2500-4500 for three seconds, which means you're dishing out 7500-13500 damage during that time, *IF* you have cooldowns available, including those abilities that do not trigger the global cooldown.
    -- FOCUSING; aka assisting. Wait a minute, you mean PUGs can assist too? Get out of here, why would I want to assist? See Burst DPS above this note. No healer in the game can live through two GOOD DPS PLAYERS, assisting, unless three healers are healing that target, for which you need (justly so) to add one more DPS, per two healers. Stack too many healers on one side, the side with a balance of DPS will win EVERY DAMN TIME!!
    -- Crowd Control; yes it is still damned effective, even with diminishing returns. But, I understand you need to be smart to use them.
    -- Power drains (Mana drains) from Dominator, and Void Knight. Post 1.3 a 51 spec Dominator can drain a Cleric in 5 seconds, unless they change it on the PTS server.

    So why on Gods green earth are you still having a problem killing a healing Cleric? Wait a minute, I understand, you want to PUG it up, not communicate with your team, and be able to kill any single Cleric, solo, even though they've got multiple Clerics healing them, and tanks protecting them. GET OUT OF HERE WITH SUCH NONSENSE!


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    im huge on pvp, and i agree with this guy 100%,


    you guys are ****ing babys...



    im going to complain about something i haven't even experienced yet, **** you guys just don't learn..


    every single patch, and I MEAN EVERY SINGLE thats been made in this game, all i see is QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ


    for about a week, and then it stops because people absorbed the new patch, seen that some of the changes where pretty good and adopted and it brought a new aspect of pvp into the game..


    im not saying i agree with the changes, but im not gonna cry a big ****ing river about it.


    im gonna wait till it hits give it a week and see the goods and the bads..


    is that too much to ask?

    like really you guys need to grow up, calm down and stop nerd raging over a video...

    if you don't like it theirs the door, no need to threaten trion that won't do ****...


    JUST leave, trust me you and ur QQ posts won't be missed.

    I literary laugh at all these QQ posts i see, without even giving them a chance, pure childish ********
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    What kills me, is it's the same people every time that QQ.
    Last edited by Visions; 06-12-2011 at 10:29 AM.


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