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    Default Clerics are OP... makes pvp'ing annoying as hell.

    Does anyone else feel the same way?

    They easily tank 4-5 people single handedly and DPS better than rogues.
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    i got fulminated for 7k today.

    maybe i just cant tank 4-5 people. dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylictal View Post
    i got fulminated for 7k today.

    maybe i just cant tank 4-5 people. dunno.
    Once that's nerfed all to hell how many will you tank then?

    4-5 isn't too bad in my book, that's about right with the team sizes being size 20, assuming you have 0 damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmar View Post
    Does anyone else feel the same way?

    They easily tank 4-5 people single handedly and DPS better than rogues.
    Are you talking about those justicar/templar/whatever clerics? Those are the only clerics who can do something like that.
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    Perhaps you should try employing other tactics rather than brute damage?

    How many of the 4-5 were applying a healing debuff?
    How many were burning the clerics mana?
    How many were silencing?
    How many were stun locking?
    How many were interupting?
    How many were stacking debuffs to increase damage the cleric takes?
    How many had the bright idea "if we cant kill it, CC it and lets move onto the next guy"?
    Insert similar questions here.....

    Oh if it is the overpowered "Senticar" spec (i think thats what its called) then quite frankly their damage reduction needs some tuning in pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarie View Post
    Perhaps you should try employing other tactics rather than brute damage?

    How many of the 4-5 were applying a healing debuff?
    How many were burning the clerics mana?
    How many were silencing?
    How many were stun locking?
    How many were interupting?
    How many were stacking debuffs to increase damage the cleric takes?
    How many had the bright idea "if we cant kill it, CC it and lets move onto the next guy"?
    Insert similar questions here.....

    Oh if it is the overpowered "Senticar" spec (i think thats what its called) then quite frankly their damage reduction needs some tuning in pvp.
    Perhaps the problem is that this much has to be done by 4-5 people to take down one cleric?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmar View Post
    Perhaps the problem is that this much has to be done by 4-5 people to take down one cleric?...
    Probably not, im guessing the answer to almost all those questions was "zero". Not sure how it is at higher prestieges but i get properly screwed by 2 semi-coordinated rogues attacking me inteligently, hell one decent rogue will probably be able to kill me if he has good enough gear.

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    hmm.. the general consensus is that Clerics are far superior to Rogues in almost every aspect.

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    must be the calling, of course. every soul in the cleric calling is hax. right? couldnt be some really nice item or trinket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmar View Post
    Does anyone else feel the same way?

    They easily tank 4-5 people single handedly and DPS better than rogues.
    I have to admit. I really do enjoy that 51-51-51-51-51-51-51-51-30 build of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmar View Post
    Perhaps the problem is that this much has to be done by 4-5 people to take down one cleric?...
    No. If that weren't the case, healers would be extinct in PvP. Try playing one. The whole time, you are pretty much GCD bound and can't heal your teammates. Which in a pug means you are just going to die more slowly.

    How many of those horribly overpowered Clerics killed your 4-5 man group? Or even one of them?

    If they are stacking wisdom for heals, they have crap for SP and intel. That means almost no crit and no spell hit as well as low mana pools (if they are wearing PvP gear, and I'm assuming they are). While you're beating on them (and by the way, two of you are enough) they aren't healing their party other than, best case, with very weak aoe heals. Peel two or 3 of you away, leaving 2-3 pounding on him, and kill his escorts. He's then just meat with a downsized mana pool. Ignore him. With nobody to heal, he's useless. and pretty much out of mana.

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    First it was "cleric must tank 2 dps or its useless" then slowly its becoming 4-5 and more dps needed to kill cleric and there are still people defending such OPness. I dont see this game having any future in pvp, clerics and mages defenders will kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarie View Post
    Perhaps you should try employing other tactics rather than brute damage?

    How many of the 4-5 were applying a healing debuff?
    How many were burning the clerics mana?
    How many were silencing?
    How many were stun locking?
    How many were interupting?
    How many were stacking debuffs to increase damage the cleric takes?
    How many had the bright idea "if we cant kill it, CC it and lets move onto the next guy"?
    Insert similar questions here.....

    Oh if it is the overpowered "Senticar" spec (i think thats what its called) then quite frankly their damage reduction needs some tuning in pvp.
    This guy prolly plays a cleric
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    Just yesterday I realized I could slot 6 souls, and spend 82 points on my Cleric. After I found that out, life was GOOD.

    I easily smoke Clerics all the time. I don't know why people keep making up stuff. There is a reason there isn't one single shred of evidence on the forums of Clerics not dying happening.
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    some cleric builds are out of whack, yes, but not all of them. they need to change some things with justicar and templar trees mostly. not all of these defensive juggernaut clerics are pushovers in the damage department as they'd have you believe either, most are spec'd far enough into shaman for at least jolt and can do 500+ dps on a high ranking player while taking next to nothing from everyone around them due to DR stacking and very efficient self/aoe healing.

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