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    Default Explanation of why Guardians win a lot.

    Aion Players that were hardcore and Did successful PvP were elyos so they stayed blue side.
    Horde players, which won a lot in battlegrounds went guardian for faster ques.
    The alliance players who lost all the time, went Defiant assuming that they would win more.
    DAOC/WARHAMMER guilds, who were focused on world PvP rather than actual PvP went defiant.
    During beta, it was clear defiant were winning a lot and were overpopulated, causing more converts.
    Gladiators from world of warcraft, as well as medium 2k crowd went guardian from what i've seen.

    It's clear that less people played Closed/Open beta rather than the actual game, and the real skilled PvP players stuck to the faction/color they love the most.


    And the results are, defiant has lots of inexperienced PvP players.
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    Clearly you are all knowing of the behavioral patterns of all players across multiple MMORPG's. WTB actual proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainotna View Post
    Clearly you are all knowing of the behavioral patterns of all players across multiple MMORPG's. WTB actual proof.

    Defiant is losing, I asked guardians around and they said they played horde. What do you want, a spreadsheet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase Payne View Post
    Defiant is losing, I asked guardians around and they said they played horde. What do you want, a spreadsheet?

    So since I personally know 8 people who played Horde and now play Defiant on a server where we aren't losing, that means that REALLY Defiants are winning everything and all Guardians played Alliance? Correct?

    Or are both arguments fallacious?

    Yep, fallacious argument is fallacious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainotna View Post
    So since I personally know 8 people who played Horde and now play Defiant on a server where we aren't losing, that means that REALLY Defiants are winning everything and all Guardians played Alliance? Correct?

    Or are both arguments fallacious?

    Yep, fallacious argument is fallacious.
    You must be one of the only servers that isn't losing. It's pretty much universal that guardians are winning. There's several topics about defiant QQ.


    Oh and I know a bunch of people on guardian who played alliance too. But I also know a lot that rerolled the good side for faster ques, you'd be suprised how many there are.


    If you were a bad player as alliance in world of warcraft, and the red side won a lot... and a new game came out... which side do you think he would choose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase Payne View Post
    You must be one of the only servers that isn't losing. It's pretty much universal that guardians are winning. There's several topics about defiant QQ.


    Oh and I know a bunch of people on guardian who played alliance too. But I also know a lot that rerolled the good side for faster ques, you'd be suprised how many there are.


    If you were a bad player as alliance in world of warcraft, and the red side won a lot... and a new game came out... which side do you think he would choose?
    I'm just saying that you probably should have brought a spreadsheet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ainotna View Post
    I'm just saying that you probably should have brought a spreadsheet.
    Do you want a powerpoint too?
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    Defiant are doing well enough on my server.

    I think you're making up crap. Asking a few guardians on one server what they used to play isn't grounds for the broad sweeping clam you've made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strenif View Post
    Defiant are doing well enough on my server.

    I think you're making up crap. Asking a few guardians on one server what they used to play isn't grounds for the broad sweeping clam you've made.
    Exactly. Glad someone else came to the same point that I was trying to make.
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    Did you do a statistically relevant survey? Or are you just going off your perceptions? If it's just perceptions, you titled it incorrectly, which is probably why you're catching flak over it. "Explanations..." doesn't mean "opinions"...

    I understand there's a lot of information, but you're falling victim to a biased sample fallacy...basing your explanations on "asking around" and forum visiting is only capturing the people who you get a response from...and are more likely to voice their opinions of such...and it's pretty common that people that complain are louder than those offering praise.

    Not flaming, just explaining why I see that as biased info.

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    Yesterday I lost nearly every pvp battleground. Today I've been winning every single battleground. Seems to depend on the day of the week or maybe even time of day.

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    0/10.

    Guardians are alliance 2.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmgp View Post
    0/10.

    Guardians are alliance 2.0
    I'm sorry, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chase Payne View Post
    DAOC/WARHAMMER guilds, who were focused on world PvP rather than actual PvP went defiant.
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    Stopped reading there. World PvP is actual PvP and denying that has made everything else relevant to your post complete and utter ********. In fact world PvP was the very first form of PvP in MMORPGs. That's like saying that pong isn't a video game.

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    Its simple enough when your in a team with only 2 classes that have a healer soul respond with if you want to have a heal roll a b or c im pew pew you know your in a losing wf and should afk if the other team has a healer

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