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    OK so I thought I'd be the Cleric in Shining white-chain-mail. And Actually Heal, you know, not DPS like those other Clerics... Anyway people ***** and complain about people dpsing as clerics, and from levels 10-29 I was basically thinking "Man this healing in PvP is the bomb!" Then you reach level 30. From then on you're in a warfront being feared polymorphed silenced over and over. There's seriously sometimes when I don't get to heal in a life because I'm usually the only healer, thus single targeted. Even with the PvP soul It has a 5 minute cooldown I'm level 42 right now and I'm pretty much thinking about giving up on PvP and sticking with PvE. Just the fact that I can't do anything with pretty much no counter frustrates me.

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    The fact that there is no cooldown at all on the vast majority of crowd control just proves that the dev team really has no clue about PvP. I loved the video where one of the devs talked about how he played DAoC and WAR etc. and loved PvP but he failed to take anything from those games and realize that spamable crowd control is ******ed.

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    As a Cleric the CC is rough by itself, but couple that with the ability to be power drained in 6 seconds, and you're an empty shell, and your toon becomes worthless.

    At this point, I enter the fights, I get silenced, feared, etcetera, and once I have the chance to cast even one spell, I'm completely out of mana, so I pop a mana potion thinking it will help, and if I'm not already dead, I'm back to being silenced, feared, etcetera and I generally die at this point, right after I see that my mana bar is empty.

    I'm really close to rolling a Warrior now, and wish after playing one in BETA, that I went with one at release.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Visions View Post

    I'm really close to rolling a Warrior now, and wish after playing one in BETA, that I went with one at release.
    I'm giving them till April to fix it or I just won't renew. I enjoy PvE but PvP is what keeps me playing a game for the long term and I'm not liking the balance of things in the game now but we shall see. Hopefully they make some changes but just going to have to wait and see.

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    I'm only 22, I guess I haven't had the chance to experience all the CC, I know the fear is kind of crazy, only been sheeped once. Overall it hasn't been too bad yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeaks View Post
    I'm only 22, I guess I haven't had the chance to experience all the CC, I know the fear is kind of crazy, only been sheeped once. Overall it hasn't been too bad yet though.
    It is really bad in the 30+ range from everything I've done so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isante View Post
    It is really bad in the 30+ range from everything I've done so far.
    Yup thats because all warriors and shamans now, have cast range closers that are insta usable in combat, and basically kill you in 2 seconds. And the CC, right now if your a Sent healer forget about your fodder.
    Ya we all bought the 3 months but if something isnt done, were going elsewhere, the game is fun, but the pvp is stupid. If your not a warrior,bard,or sab, dont bother

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    Now if only the crowd control could actually stop that warrior from jumping at me from 30 meters range, stunning me and then killing me while I am stunned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aux View Post
    Now if only the crowd control could actually stop that warrior from jumping at me from 30 meters range, stunning me and then killing me while I am stunned.
    All while having equal, or more CC themselves?


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    Same experience here. LvL 50 Cleric.

    Never ever seeing another healer in a warfront does not help it either.

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    Think we need to wait and be patient.

    I don't know why it seems like every MMO goes through the exact same problem with ridiculous CC balance issues at launch. Eventually, immunity or whatever gets patched in, but for months, the PvP crowd has to suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fervor View Post
    Think we need to wait and be patient.

    I don't know why it seems like every MMO goes through the exact same problem with ridiculous CC balance issues at launch. Eventually, immunity or whatever gets patched in, but for months, the PvP crowd has to suffer.
    Hehe, I cancelled my sub so I'm only using the 30 free days unless they fix it. I don't feel the need to sit around and suffer if it doesn't change as I can just wait for the next MMO to come out and hopefully they will get it right.

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    I seriously worry about the adequacy of the balance team that the game even went close to live like this, let alone actually released as imbalanced as it is. You can see clear as day, even on paper, that instant, spammable CC, super long silence durations, 6 second CD interrupts, etc would ruin PvP. I want to win or lose based on the merits of my actions and skill. Not based on someone stringing a completely void of skill CC chain on me that requires 3 buttons and lasts 20 seconds even with a Break Free.

    The CC in this game is ridiculous and I'm one of the many that are going to leave if there isn't shorter durations, stricter DR, and overall less CC in the game. The effectiveness of CC in PvP is 100% of the fight right now. Being 100-0'd without having control of my character or being able to use any abilities is beyond broken.
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    Have you guys tried running in a premade? I usually run with a Dom and Riftstalker/Sab, so when I have someone draining me or CCing me all I have to do is say in Vent "Assist on me" and said person is put on lockdown.

    I'm level 44 and I've been running back to back Warfronts since ten. I can only think of two or three fights, one with three enemy Doms, and one with four enemy VKs, that I've been rendered totally useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CherryWasHere View Post
    Have you guys tried running in a premade? I usually run with a Dom and Riftstalker/Sab, so when I have someone draining me or CCing me all I have to do is say in Vent "Assist on me" and said person is put on lockdown.

    I'm level 44 and I've been running back to back Warfronts since ten. I can only think of two or three fights, one with three enemy Doms, and one with four enemy VKs, that I've been rendered totally useless.
    I do run with a premade, but I've been unlucky to go against 3VK, 2 Bard premades recently, back to back, and quite frankly the Warrior builds like this that can CC you, and drain all the healers power in 6-12 seconds is utterly pointless. It makes it very hard to be a Cleric, when you can do absolutely nothing.


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