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    How would you put together your dream team for the current raids and fastest possible kill times.

    My dream team looks like this:
    1. Primalist (Support - MysticHybrid for the support buffs that stack with archon and bard)
    2. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    3. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    4. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    5. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    6. Primalist (Tank - with 5% more crit debuff or DD if the Rogue plays a healtank)
    7. Rogue (Bard support with group heal or DPS for more cleave)
    8. Cleric (Tank - with the 5% more magic damage debuff which stacks with Archon, if no second Tank needed he plays Iquisitor for the 5 % magic debuff, if no Bard heal is needed the Cleric plays DPS Oracel)
    9. Mage (Support - heal archo if he can heal the group alone and the cleric can play dps oracel otherwise dps archo)
    10. Warrior(DPS - Riftblade and Warchanter for second boss)

    My dream team compilation would consist of 6x Primalist, 1x Rogue, 1 Mage, 1 Cleric and 1 Warrior.

    You only need cleave for the second boss and the cleave of Summon: Beacon of the Drake (Primalist) is enough.
    For the last boss it is enough if all go to different targets (mark and target macros help to do this) cleave is not needed.
    Last edited by Bamul; 10-31-2018 at 06:21 PM. Reason: more DPS ^^

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    no mage dps you classist :P

    Also I think rogue tank would be a good choice as well? since healtank specs, rogue tank can have up to 250k+ hps, pretty much a raid heal and you can free up another dps slot on certain bosses.
    Last edited by Cileriqao; 06-10-2018 at 03:01 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cileriqao View Post
    no mage dps you classist :P
    Primalist single target DPS is simply better and in the current content you hardly need cleave so I prefer Primalist so much. For the second boss, for example, 1 cleaver is enough for the adds, more cleavers just steal each other's DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cileriqao View Post
    Also I think rogue tank would be a good choice as well? since healtank specs, rogue tank can have up to 250k+ hps, pretty much a raid heal and you can free up another dps slot on certain bosses.
    Mage Tank can also heal pretty well and take on the role of a group healer, but I think in the current content the overhealing by a bard is more than enough. Mostly someone dies by stupid behavior (Defensive Spin, running out of heal range) or by bad luck and less by lack of healing so I prefer the battlerez from a cleric tank. For fights where you don't need a bard to ideally replace the bard with a dps oracel, a warchanter + cleric tank is generally enough healing. Cleric tanks also seem to do most dps, but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamul View Post
    How would you put together your dream team for raids.

    My dream team looks like this:
    1. Primalist (Support - MysticHybrid for the support buffs that stack with archon and bard)
    2. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    3. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    4. Primalist (Tank - because of his good mitigation and if only one tank is needed he can play full DPS)
    5. Rogue (Heal - Bard support with group heal)
    6. Rogue (DPS- for st dps and cleave)
    7. Cleric (Tank - battlerez is awesome)
    8. Cleric (DPS - Inquisitor because of the 5% more magic damage debuff which stacks with Archon, theoretically a dps Primalist or Cleric tank could do that too but if no group healing (bard) is needed, the cleric can play dps oracel).
    9. Mage (Support - preferred dps Archon for the big support buffs but can also take over group healing if necessary)
    10. Warrior(Heal - Warchanter for tank heal and dps at the same time)

    My dream team compilation would consist of 4x Primalist, 2x Rogue, 2x Cleric, 1 Warrior and 1 Mage.
    The compilation is a bit weak as far as cleave damage is concerned, but if more cleave is needed the Bard can play DPS, the DPS Cleric can play DPS Oracel and the Archon can take over the group healing.
    I prefer a mage tank, 40%dmg red on a 30s cd is hard to beat plus all the utility.
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    I changed my dream team a little bit for maximum DPS, now the Cleric tank plays a spec with the 5% magic debuff and the Inquisitor is replaced by a Rogue for more ST DPS and cleave. If no Bard heal is needed, the Cleric plays DPS Oracel. As Cileriqao suggested, I replaced the Primalist tank with an Rogue Tank for better group healing, I think this makes the whole setup a bit more stable with only one bard as group healer.

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    A primalist tank can also make a realy nice healing , around 600k heal with soul shroud , essence strike , and predestination and the correct rotation that keeps both eternal procs.

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    primal tank for 5% crit debuff i would take
    druid isnt weak either its pretty stronk for st
    Last edited by Killerloose; 06-12-2018 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killerloose View Post
    primal tank for 5% crit debuff i would take
    druid isnt weak either its pretty stronk for st
    That's a good point, I think if the bard can manage the healing alone, I'd prefer prima tank for the 5% crit debuff instead of the rogue tank.

    Druid without disconnects is pretty strong but I haven't seen a Druid parse on prancingturtle since the Hotfix to evaluate his performance in a raid.

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    After Patch 4.5 I changed my dreamteam setup. Primalists DPS is currently so op that I would fill every DPS slot with a primalist, the remaining classes are only for eternal buffs, support, heal and debuffs.

    My dream team compilation would consist of 6x Primalist, 1x Rogue, 1x Mage, 1x Cleric and 1x Warrior.

    You only need cleave for the second boss and the cleave of Summon: Beacon of the Drake (Primalist) is enough.
    For the last boss it is enough if all go to different targets (mark and target macros help to do this) cleave is not needed.

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    Default For 1st boss of BOS only.

    1 tank : Primal with Jungle rush legendary who keeps endless warping around the group.
    1 Chon/Chlroro
    1 Bard/Phys
    6 Prim DD
    1 Prim Mystic DPS



    Try it someday. I remember that we tried this and failed because of so many melees. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusclPig View Post
    1 tank : Primal with Jungle rush legendary who keeps endless warping around the group.
    Try it someday. I remember that we tried this and failed because of so many melees. lol
    Sounds interesting, I hope our raid group tries that. Probably will take a lot of convincing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamul View Post
    Sounds interesting, I hope our raid group tries that. Probably will take a lot of convincing
    The reason we failed was just about time reduction. It was little bit slower than our normal tactic because of so many melee dps - maybe 3 rogues and 1 druid.

    But with 6 prim DD, maybe it's apparently doable and a meaningful try. haha.


    I just visited this forum as a recollection and found this interesting thread so replied.

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    One day, Azranel will get so extreme, group will just have 2 heal-tanks, 1 ele-chloro, and the chon will use their ae-cleanse to cleanse group. And Titan X would just need 1 chloro-chon, 1 heal-tank, and 8 dps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamul View Post
    How would you put together your dream team for the current raids and fastest possible kill times.

    My dream team looks like this:
    1. Primalist (Support - MysticHybrid for the support buffs that stack with archon and bard)
    2. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    3. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    4. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    5. Primalist(DPS - because only ST damage matters)
    6. Primalist (Tank - with 5% more crit debuff)
    7. Rogue (Heal - Bard support with group heal)
    8. Cleric (Tank - with the 5% more magic damage debuff which stacks with Archon, if no second Tank needed he plays Iquisitor for the 5 % magic debuff, if no Bard heal is needed the Cleric plays DPS Oracel)
    9. Mage (Support - preferred dps Archon for the big support buffs but can also take over group healing if necessary)
    10. Warrior(DPS - Riftblade and Warchanter for second boss)

    My dream team compilation would consist of 6x Primalist, 1x Rogue, 1 Mage, 1 Cleric and 1 Warrior.

    You only need cleave for the second boss and the cleave of Summon: Beacon of the Drake (Primalist) is enough.
    For the last boss it is enough if all go to different targets (mark and target macros help to do this) cleave is not needed.
    Tried something similar to this and we ran into problems on second boss the adds werent dying and tanks ended up getting wrecked told myself i wouldn't take 5 primalist anymore after that. We had to have two of the primalist tank just to finish it. Also your time on titan X won't be what you expect it to be. Yes you burn the last phase quickly but with no aoe you spend a long time in the add phases. On the other hand you do get the calamity achieve i think he had 12 stacks when we finally got to the boss. Beacon of the drake is not enough to get all those adds down before the tank really starts getting hit by the boss and the tank and those caster adds hurt quite a bit. If you can do it post a vid i'd love to see it.
    Last edited by fearhi; 10-30-2018 at 11:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearhi View Post
    Tried something similar to this and we ran into problems on second boss the adds werent dying and tanks ended up getting wrecked told myself i wouldn't take 5 primalist anymore after that. We had to have two of the primalist tank just to finish it. Also your time on titan X won't be what you expect it to be. Yes you burn the last phase quickly but with no aoe you spend a long time in the add phases. On the other hand you do get the calamity achieve i think he had 12 stacks when we finally got to the boss. Beacon of the drake is not enough to get all those adds down before the tank really starts getting hit by the boss and the tank and those caster adds hurt quite a bit. If you can do it post a vid i'd love to see it.
    We only have two Primalists in the guild so we can't really test it. The first time we had 3 Primalists we set a new best time of 5:16, but that was before the second HP nerf (the time prancingturtle shows is wrong because the timer was still running after Commander Isiel's dead)

    Both primalists made over 300 k dps with Summon: Beacon of the Drake. I'm sure that we could replace the Warrior dd and the Cleric dd with two Primalists with the same dps like Primaschreiber and Hokhmah and kill the boss in record time even with 2 tanks. With 5 primalists who make over 2 m st dps in phase 1 you have so much st dps that you don't need a second tank because the maintank doesn't get enough stacks to get knocked down. If you play with 1 tank you have several options, the rogue can use a tank/heal/bard spec and take care of the adds (adds don't make legendary hits) take over the group healing and the bard buffs. Or the rogue goes on a cleave spec and tries to kill the adds as quickly as possible.

    Primas can also change the 65 mastery for bit less st dps, but much more cleave.
    If you need more cleave for the second boss you can also play with 2 prima tanks. The bard then plays dd, the archon takes over the group healing and the cleric plays dps oracel.

    With Titan X I'm not sure but I suppose if you have 5 primalists who make 300-400 k more st dps than any other class you can compensate for the lack of aoe dmg as long as you distribute the players well among the targets so that you avoid unnecessary target changes.

    The rogue can play dd for the last boss so you have enough cleave and the cleric can play DPS Oracel for buffs and debuffs. If the group dodges the ghosts, an Archon can heal the raid.

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