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    Hello once again.
    After some tries on the second boss in Endless Eclipse - some questions arrise.

    First of all - sometimes when killing first miniboss - and after the bloodthieves, there was a pack of many adds appearing. Does that mean we killed slow the bloodthieves or we killed slow the miniboss?

    Those big pack of adds - do appear on a timer after the bloodthieves are killed or on a timer from the start of the fight ?

    Also, on the second mini boss, 3 people are randomly going into zombies.
    How can they survive?there is a timer for 30 seconds, so i guess they need to survive 30 seconds. They tried to eat other people using the special ability , but it does nothing.

    Final question (for now) , the tank + offtank keep busy a bunch of adds - that we dont dps at all. Should we dps them down after the 2nd miniboss has died and before engaging Kain or we need to take them with us to kain?

    Thank you once again for your valuable answers (:

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    I think the second pack of adds appear if you are too slow on getting the first miniboss down, or kill the first pack, or Bloodthiefs are still alive when the first miniboss dies.

    As for the zombies they can survive by eating other players. But the ability has a fairly short range. People also can eat pets or even companions i think (if they are targettable)

    As for killing the adds after the second miniboss dies. You dont have to do that as they usually die by themselfs.

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    The zombied people can also be shielded by a puribot spamming small heals on them to proc a shield. They can't actually be healed, but you can shield them through negating any need for them to eat another player/pet.

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    We are not using a purifier to this fight...to maximize our dps.
    So if they keep eating people - they should be able to stay alive? cuz all 3 died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simos View Post
    We are not using a purifier to this fight...to maximize our dps.
    So if they keep eating people - they should be able to stay alive? cuz all 3 died.
    Yes, they can stay alive by eating other raid members. As the AP said, they can eat pets or raid members. this will of course reduce the health of the eaten, so they have to be careful about it. Maximising dps is great - but remember dead dps does no dps...

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    ok uhm

    [spolier] first part you need to kill all the bloodthieves before the first guy dies, then kill bazil (wtfever his name is) and kill nothing else
    we have to hold all dps for quite some time during this part to make sure the adds die before him :S
    after that everythin should pop on its own and the transition to kain, aka get into place
    as for the zombie mode you can eat companions, pick one with high hp, but really they should just target someone with high hp rather than die
    the person they are channeling from wont be able to move until you stop [/spoiler]
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    yes they should be able to stay alife. They shouldnt have to use the ability too often. Maybe two or 3 times should be enough.

    The eating ability has a pretty short range, so the ones zombified have to make sure that they are actually in range of the person they try to eat. Also check who you are eating ;) not that you try to eat the ones with the lowest hitpoints. For melee guys can eat the tanks or melee pets, ranged can eat the bard as they usually have a higher HP pool

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    i though we gonna talk about hm kain. which needs to be fixed.

    wtb a dev reply to here!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simos View Post
    Hello once again.
    After some tries on the second boss in Endless Eclipse - some questions arrise.

    First of all - sometimes when killing first miniboss - and after the bloodthieves, there was a pack of many adds appearing. Does that mean we killed slow the bloodthieves or we killed slow the miniboss?

    Those big pack of adds - do appear on a timer after the bloodthieves are killed or on a timer from the start of the fight ?

    Also, on the second mini boss, 3 people are randomly going into zombies.
    How can they survive?there is a timer for 30 seconds, so i guess they need to survive 30 seconds. They tried to eat other people using the special ability , but it does nothing.

    Final question (for now) , the tank + offtank keep busy a bunch of adds - that we dont dps at all. Should we dps them down after the 2nd miniboss has died and before engaging Kain or we need to take them with us to kain?

    Thank you once again for your valuable answers (:
    Once the first big add dies it will put a debuff on the mobs around him which will cause them to explode and die. It's important not to let more than 4 of these adds get this debuff otherwise the rest of them will activate and that will be a wipe. During this time, you will of had 1 set of bloodthieves (3 I believe) - They need to be killed before the miniboss, or that's a wipe too!

    The 2nd miniboss activates and it's just the same, except he can turn up to 3 random players in zombies on top of the same mechanics mini boss #1 had. Easiest way of dealing with this is to summon pets/companions and eat those. It's a channeled cast, so you can't do anything else whilst it eats... if you stop the cast, you won't get healed. There's also some AOE from the adds that can 1 shot anyone except tanks in melee, so you have to be careful of that... don't think there's much more to it though.

    It's up to you to decide who is going to tank what, but it's fairly simple to figure out that the first miniboss needs to be tanked away from the adds... the 2nd one, doesn't really matter. Good luck!

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    If you're getting extra adds its because some or many of your DPS are trying to pad their parse and killing off the other adds, which will summon a complete set of new adds. Do not let your DPS use AoE to pad their parse.

    Some of the rest of these posts are actually mis-information. I suggest you guys check your info (like bloodthieves do not happen - ever - during Baziel's stage).
    Last edited by Patchkid; 03-26-2013 at 06:42 AM.

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    its not broken, you just need tier 3 content gears to kill it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vioarr View Post
    HM Kain is broken?
    a broken boss in rift ? it is impossible!

    wtb a dev reply to here!!!

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    If the Reapers get too close together they will enrage.

    If the first sub-boss is killed and any blood thieves are still alive, the next sub-boss will enrage.

    If the first sub-boss is not killed fast enough, he will consume adds and enrage.

    If too many non-bloodthief adds are killed, new adds will appear (eventually the Bone Grinder) and often enrage due to the new Reapers getting too close to each other.

    The second sub-boss will cause the adds to start exploding, it's a very faint ring that will kill your melee, kite around and have the melee run out. This could happen to the adds held by either tank. The mechanics for killing too many adds and getting the Reapers close together will remain until Kain spawns.
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