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    Default Crucia - Orbital Strike Healing

    Can anyone shed some light on the healing setup they are currently using for the second platform of Crucia. We are having some trouble healing through the Breath/Orbital Strike mechanics, even when using what feels like a ton of healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazarus176 View Post
    Can anyone shed some light on the healing setup they are currently using for the second platform of Crucia. We are having some trouble healing through the Breath/Orbital Strike mechanics, even when using what feels like a ton of healers.
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    http://www.riftguru.net/index.php/cm...tempest-crucia

    We use 2 Wardens, a puri, defiler and 2 chloro's, since the fight has been shortened and the enrager time has not been decreased you can pretty much stack as many healers as you want, I figured the above link will be a fair bit of help, enjoy =)
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    2 wardens, a puri, a defiler, and three chloros. We could have done it with 2 chloros, though-- our illustrious raid leader forgot to turn on a veil on our first kill.

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    Use a tactician/bard with Curative Torrent in conjunction with your other healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammako View Post
    Use a tactician/bard with Curative Torrent in conjunction with your other healers.
    61 Tactician is going to be more effective than Bard/Tact, because you can drop Fortification Core for the first Orbital and use Ablative Coil for the second. (If you get a third-- which you shouldn't-- you can just use Fortification Core again.)
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    We use:

    1 synth swapping chloro
    1 aoe chloro
    1 shield bot puri
    1 defiler link bot
    1 warden
    1 tact/bard

    Between the aoe cloro, the tact/bard and the warden are plenty to heal through the strike, specially with the puri shielding the damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toransparkwing View Post
    Warning: This Link will only work for the next 24-48 hours

    http://www.riftguru.net/index.php/cm...tempest-crucia

    We use 2 Wardens, a puri, defiler and 2 chloro's, since the fight has been shortened and the enrager time has not been decreased you can pretty much stack as many healers as you want, I figured the above link will be a fair bit of help, enjoy =)
    I'll copy the important part from this for whenever the link doesn't work again

    Heal through orbital strike - this is a bit of a tall order, but here are some tips. A good way to deal with this is to have your purifier preemtively shield the raid about 10 seconds before orbital. Your warden will need to time a cooldown or two to deal with the rest of the incoming damage as the chloros raid heal as much as possible. Monsoon + Ripple will help buffer the health of the raid for the entire duration, then you can use Healing Effusion for the rest of the cast. For the second orbital strike 40 seconds later, cast orbs of the tide on the active tank after purifier shields wear off again. You need to cast it on the tank because the aoe damage on everyone goes through the tank first (it's weird). Use wave of renewal, then finish through with Pool of Restoration and Healing Effusion. You can usually unclench your buttcheeks after the second orbital strike because she'll be near 60%. If you use 2 wardens you can alternate cooldowns. One will use monsoon for the first orbital strike, the other will use monsoon for the second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    61 Tactician is going to be more effective than Bard/Tact, because you can drop Fortification Core for the first Orbital and use Ablative Coil for the second. (If you get a third-- which you shouldn't-- you can just use Fortification Core again.)
    Running a tactician and a bard wastes a slot you could use for DPS, a tactician/bard supplies all you need to get through this phase, which is just Curative Torrent.

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    Orbital Strike doesn't hit nearly as hard as most think. When you're getting hit by Orbital, there are two Swirly's that are going around the room, When hit it's called "Proximity Shock" It does multiple ticks of 4 - 6k to the raid whenever it hits. Whoever is in the mech suit, have them target the one that is closest to the raid, and suppress it. It'll take a LOAD of damage off the raid itself.

    ^^^ Only reason i listed that is because I've been in 4 - 5 different Crucia groups and not one of the groups were suppressing the Proximity and they were getting nailed.

    Ideally, Defiler/Synth swap Chloro/Puri are mandatory, along with some AE Healers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jKig26y3zI - Note at 3:58 Orbital Strike hits, and note we have an assload of healers.
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    2 Chloros, 2 Wardens, 1 Puri, 1 Defiler -- Alternatively, you can drop a warden if one of them is extremely competent with timing cooldowns for Orbital Strike. There really is no reason to not overheal, there's plenty of time to complete the encounter now. Have fun and good luck!

    Breath - Natural Conversion, Healer's Covenent, Spiritual Conflagration, and Unstable Transformation can be utilized just from healer's alone. Tanks should utilize their own CDs too. Communicate together on who will CD what.
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    Thanks for all the quick feedback, we will be incorporating some of these suggestions during our next pass at Crucia. Ill try to remember to post how it goes.

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    We use
    2 chloro's (one is synth, one is raid)
    1 warden
    1 puri-shieldbot
    1 61 defiler linkbot
    1 BardTact

    For the first orbital strike the puri (me generally) makes sure to have the raid shielded to start, and then spam as much as possible through the strike.

    The second strike (and we only deal with 2) I try to get the shields up again and I also drop a heal philter to try and help. For both our Warden which ever cool down are available.

    The enrage is so easy that you could also add a full warden and a full choloro and make all the dps checks on the storm cannons and enrage timer. (assuming good dps specs/players of course)

    The problem may be that the wisp is appearing on the raid or not being negated fast enough as when we have deaths now it is always because of the wisp during the orbital strike rather than inadequate healing itself.
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    I know this can be pretty overwhelming at first, but once you get a good setup it gets easy

    We use the following:

    1 Warden
    1 Puri
    1 Defiler
    1 Bard
    1 Tact
    3 Chloros (one of them is in MAC form and only comes into play on raid heals in the last phase), 1 Chloro is on Synth and the other raid heals)

    Now for the warden (and note this is only ment for the orb dmg not the whole fight, so people don't start raging here that wardens are supposed to be played differently)

    Make sure your warden gets his CDs ready is 61 full warden and not some kind of hybrid, then its fairly easy. Your MAC has to supress the outer orb (very important) as it does otherwise too much dmg. Also very important that you have two cleansing teams as the whole raid gets debuffed every 8 seconds during this phase and the debuff does dmg over time, so you want to cleanse that off asap and you need 2 cleansers in each team as the debuff hits the entire raid.

    Your warden needs to build up healing stacks via dps on the boss before the orb dmg so his healing is increased by 15% during the orb dmg. Build your stacks, then via ripple spread soothing stream on the raid, right before orb dmg starts warden throws orbs of the streams on himself, tidal surge, monsoon, and as the first orb hit comes in pool of restoration and then spam healing effusion. Try to stay away from Healing Cataract as you can get one insta off with touch of light but after that the channeling will kill you. Also stay away from Wave of Renewal (I know the animation is awesome and it heals for tons, but for the orb fight honestly not my first choice) it's constant burst dmg so you want constant burst heals.

    After the orb you have enough downtime before the next one that the chloro, bard and tact can keep the raid healed easily and it gives the warden enough time to replenish his mana as healing effusion is a mana eater. Don't forget to build up your healing stacks again before the next orb dmg starts. (by this time monsoon will be still on CD, so follow the same rotation as before - the monsoon)

    For the last phase your warden can go back to his regular rotations as its not that difficult once people learn to get out of ground debuffs, turn around on her blinding.

    Of course you can have another setup with more chloros healing during the orb phase and the warden just using his regular heals, but why not taking advantage of what your classes can do, it will make the fight much easier for you and your healers.

    Some might disagree with our setup, but we have her on farm now after just two weeks so we must be doing something right

    Good luck to you I am sure you'll have her down in notime ;)

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    The wardens cooldowns take care of the massive damage. We used 2 wardens for this purpose, but then switched to a 61tact that is pure heals. You'd be surprised how much aoe 61tact pulls when people are stacked.

    The trick about warden is timing. 61tact with fort core at first, coil at second. Makes it stupidly better and almost so easy.

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    Tactician is pretty bad as a healer in general. Just rotate warden cooldowns (and warden remains useful even in the final phase)

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