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    Default HM conclave relic shoulders

    Does anyone have a screenshot of the relic shoulders you get for combining the epic and the HM conclave drop? Just wondering if they are better then the relic tier shoulders and if so by how much.

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    They're all better. The HM shoulder is BiS for ever class. Just imagine the shoulders you have now but better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WriteThemWrong View Post
    They're all better. The HM shoulder is BiS for ever class. Just imagine the shoulders you have now but better.
    True some of the time - plate dps, not the case. The epic piece that is upgraded actually has slightly more stats than the "BiS" relic.

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    Its the same with chain shoulders - more SP at the sacrifize of spellcrit.
    Heard a rumor theyve been brougt down to set relic shoulders itemlvl since hardmode isnt that hard (and packmaster last is/was harder than eretuu before 1.8.2)

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    Wish we'd even get shoulder drops, got 2 crystals now with no shoulders to use them on :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vayra View Post
    Wish we'd even get shoulder drops, got 2 crystals now with no shoulders to use them on :/
    We have the same problem.. What needs to be done is shoulders only drop when you kill hardmode.. So when you get ur extra lot chest you get ereetu's focusing crystal plus shoulders in that box guranteed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxShunsuixX View Post
    We have the same problem.. What needs to be done is shoulders only drop when you kill hardmode.. So when you get ur extra lot chest you get ereetu's focusing crystal plus shoulders in that box guranteed.
    If that were the case, why even bother with the crystal, just make it drop a pair of shoulders.
    Nope.

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    Rogue tank shoulders are not better. They are several stat points less in str and dex, and the gain in dodge doesn't make up for all the deflect it doesn't have.

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    As far as i understood the shoulder piece drops from more than 1 boss and not only conclave, but it's only conclave HM that drops the token to upgrade these.

    also heard same rumours that these upgraded shoulders are not bis anymore since ppl cleared HM day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipedreams View Post
    True some of the time - plate dps, not the case. The epic piece that is upgraded actually has slightly more stats than the "BiS" relic.
    Some would say that's an upgrade. I'd take power over crit any day. Plus it's orange, and oranges make people do crazy things, you should know pipe.

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    Itemization on these is fairly poor. For mages and rogues I'm sure it could drop 40 crit for 10 ap/sp and they wouldn't care but for clerics and warriors a major loss in crit for a significantly less AP/SP gain is not worth it (assuming for clerics, know for warriors). The general consensus among warriors is that 1 AP = 2 crit, with these relic shoulders adding 9 ap at the expense of 21 crit the tradeoff is too high. These relic warrior shoulders aren't even a sidegrade, they're a downgrade. They are not BiS, they are not better than the charred shoulders at the relic vendor, they are actually 4th BiS behind both the relic rogue piece and their un-upgraded epic counterpart. The people working on itemization should perhaps consult with the people who run BiS lists for each class, because they've obviously fallen down on the job if they were trying to make these BiS.
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    Bump - relic plate dps still a downgrade from the upgraded epic piece, nothing like feeling like an idiot after using a relic item to 'upgrade' an epic to a relic, and have it giving less dps than the epic. Broken and unacceptable.

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    ^^^^^^^^ i feel cheated
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    Epic drops better than Relics, now what instance does that remind everyone of...

    Don't worry, I'm sure they'll buff them the day the next tier is released...
    Last edited by Primalthirst; 04-29-2012 at 08:17 AM.
    Nope.

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    Really want to see these shoulders itemised properly, hardmode not being hard enough is no reason to have these a downgrade for some. If you get something wrong, making something else wrong resulting from your original mistake doesn't make it better, the shoulders should be reverted to be actually be BiS as advertised.

    Part of the overall problem is too small a bump from hk to id gear, so far you don't need ID farming to ramp up your capabilities within ID.

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