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    Default So why should I be wiping for hours in ID for crap gear?

    So from full HK relics to ID relics as a cleric im gaining a whooping 62 sp and 34end, and losing 118sc . I thought the entire point of a new tier was to upgrade my gear not distribute stats around. With a simple conversion of about 2-1 for SC to SP im not even gaining anything. At this current point in time the biggest upgrade for me will be in the first 10mins of 1.8 coming out with my new seal. Im not asking for crazy upgrades but when im actually losing stats to "upgrades" that starts to become an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garnesy View Post
    So from full HK relics to ID relics as a cleric im gaining a whooping 62 sp and 34end, and losing 118sc . I thought the entire point of a new tier was to upgrade my gear not distribute stats around. With a simple conversion of about 2-1 for SC to SP im not even gaining anything. At this current point in time the biggest upgrade for me will be in the first 10mins of 1.8 coming out with my new seal. Im not asking for crazy upgrades but when im actually losing stats to "upgrades" that starts to become an issue.
    Opps im meant to say HK relics to ID epics

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    Ask Josh to add some toughness to your gear is that what you need sir?

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    What the OP said, x1000

    Not sure about the exact stats, but WTF, its such a small upgrade, i mean why lol, whoever made those stats and gear hasn't played Rift ever. Rift wants to bridge the gap between casuals and raiders, by [EDIT] saying, "We are gonna make the hardest possible instance EVER, by giving you the smallest possible stat upgrade EVER"
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    Look at the difference between T1 relic weapons and T2 epic weapons. It's not huge. The same thing is true of T2 relic --> T3 epic. But T2 relic --> T3 relic will be a decent upgrade.
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    I like this gear curve because in 2 years we won't have Heroic Ragnaros with almost a quarter billion HP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tordana View Post
    Look at the difference between T1 relic weapons and T2 epic weapons. It's not huge. The same thing is true of T2 relic --> T3 epic. But T2 relic --> T3 relic will be a decent upgrade.
    It's still an upgrade though. Hk relic armor to ID epic armor is not an upgrade it's a sidegrade. There just taking all my SC and giving it to me in SP.

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    Link your math? You gain more than 62 SP from just a 1 handed weapon upgrade. And spell crit isn't nearly as good as you think it is.

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    [EDIT]
    you're comparing apples to oranges (no pun intended)


    the HEX gear the previous tier (HK) is MEANT to be on-par with the NON-HEX gear of the current tier (ID)

    you have to compare the HEX gear of HK to the HEX gear of ID or the NON-HEX to NON-HEX for it to mean anything

    its the same reason why people are still using GSB relic weapons in HK, they are special and meant to be on-par with the next tier
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    Yeah, I think it's intended that hexed T2 to vendor T3 is meant to be mostly sidegrade. No more gearflation.
    For warriors it's a bit of an exception due to AP changes, itemization change, and tier change all at once.

    You wipe in ID for hours because it's fun to beat, to answer the question.
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    zomg I didn't gain an extra digit in my DPS with this new tier gear! The sky is falling!

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    raiding should be for fun not for gear!

    and like veev said the weapon drops will likely easily make up for the smallish difference, plus how much will that improve with ID relics (assuming they exist)

    also are the ID synergy crystals out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChainsawPlankton View Post
    raiding should be for fun not for gear!

    and like veev said the weapon drops will likely easily make up for the smallish difference, plus how much will that improve with ID relics (assuming they exist)

    also are the ID synergy crystals out?
    So far on PTS, the ID gear uses the old synergy crystals.
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    Gear is so overrated.

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    And we thought you hardcore raiders raided for the challenge...guess that cat's out of the bag.

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