Think of PA as a level up.
Just because you level a rogue to 50 doesn't mean you also leveled up a mage to 50. Think of PA as levels beyond 50 that you actually have to attain.
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Just remember : when you talk to an idiot, he's probably doing the same. PvE forums aren't any better than PvP forums, and most PvP QQs are made by some lost PvEers.
I know this is off topic, but anyway, I think ppl explained enough that there's no real reason to make it the way OP wants it...
"A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords at dawn..".
You people are still missing the boat here. As others have shown, PA is -miniscule- in the end when it comes to raiding. You can have every tree maxed out... and if you stand in the wrong place for 1 second, it nullifies all of your PA.
When you eat a flame tick for 3800 damage, that's pretty 400% more HPs than PA will ever give you. If you so much as do Infiltrator in GSB and eat just 1 blinding bomb, the DPS loss is greater than if you had -0- PA levels and not gotten stunned.
That's why I said that raiders are just using PA levels as elitist snotjerk stats. I consider myself a serious raider... but I don't need to sort raiders by PA levels. We actually get to to know our raiders -before- we let them in full-time. That's the one and only way to figure out if the people you're bringing in are good.
The only people who really care about PA levels are the same types who came from WoW and got weened on gearscore and DPS meters. They're the type of guilds who have recruitment spams like, ""______ " guild is recruiting for HK. Have spots open for heals, DPS, OT, dedicated Archon, and Bard. Must have 50 PA lev, 380+hit/focus. If u don't got the skillz, ****."
I see these every single day. Usually, it's a collection of guilds that have lifespans of about 2 weeks. Different people, mind you... but they're just tools looking to suck in some gullible suckers to do raids. They might do GSB or DH/GP... then wipe on Gaurath in RoS and their guild folds. That, or they get stuck on Matron in HK.
I've seen guilds fail with 15/20 members in 4-piece HK relic gear... and it had nothing to do with PA. To be a good raid guild, you have to be a good guild first. Zerging out a roster with boxscore stats is not going to make a successful raid guild... I don't care how you reason it.
Hence, I stand by my statement. PA is the new GS.4) New Raiding Requirement
Prior to the PA system, raiding guilds simply posted up their class need and perhaps a gear requirement (focus/hit). Now more and more guilds are posting up PA requirements as well. The fact is that if you don't have much PA you will be at an extreme disadvantage compared to someone who has a lot. +60 to your 3 main stats, along with resists, and other bonuses is like wearing 2-3 extra pieces of gear over someone who doesn't have the PA. The "gear level" difference between someone with 100k PA and 0 PA is pretty monumental. Prior to PA it came down to gear and skill and you could “fast track” people to get gear if you wanted to. There is no fast tracking PA. Now I have to tell people who went on vacation or had RL stuff come up that they are so far behind in PA that we can't really bring them into ID. It's a sad reality that will no doubt grow even worse as the 3rd tier is released.
GS was used as a way to weed out people from raids. You needed X GS if you wanted to come, and usually that number was inflated well beyond what was reasonable for the encounter. Now people are using PA as a barrier for entry, because of the perception that PA is now required to raid.
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Last edited by TheGrinnz; 03-15-2012 at 09:14 AM.
I think you'll find it's you missing the boat. You can make your own examples up about HP differences... but there's way more to it than that.
Someone posted the stats you gain if you max out all trees... imagine if that is done 20 times and add those stats to a raid.. you're telling me it makes NO difference? On top of that the resistance stats AND the incoming tier 3s which will just add more stats. Please... whatever you're on, share !
Encounters are not tuned to depend on them. I guess if you need a crutch to do the encounters, fine, then advertise "Must have X PA, because we need training wheels in this guild!"you're telling me it makes NO difference?
A good player who may not have farmed PA incessantly yet is always better than a mediocre player with X PA. Of course, the Gearscore crowd never learned that.
Last edited by mavfin87; 03-15-2012 at 09:34 AM.
▲For you <3!
Forget my several hundred PA levels and hammerknell relics, I'm just going to min/max in my starting gear. Watch out Sicaron parses!