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    Default What is Defiants Necrotic Greater Essence equivalent?

    We have seen this debate for months now and yet, no one can ever answer it in a straight up fashion.

    What is it? Where is it? How do we obtain it?

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    You have to do the Kain quest line to get it.

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    unseen tele trinket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixel Monkey View Post
    unseen tele trinket?
    Not even vaguely in the same league as the Necrotic Greaters.
    The Unseen trinket has saved me about 15 minutes in total since I got it.
    Nope.

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    What is Defiant equivalent?

    You have around 70% of population (guess, but I stick by it), meaning you have more recruits.
    You have a neck for greenscale epic quest, guardians don't.
    You had a working greenscale epic quest when greenscale droppped the hearth for everyone, guardians didn't.
    You have the teleport trinket which can be considered a Slip Away, the most overpowered ability in the game (lols at the mages).

    Note #1: When people started progressing through GSB, I haven't seen anyone having this essence.

    Note #2: The essence was used in RoS.

    Note #3: The essence is not used in HK due to high amount of bugs with it, such as no visible circle at Sicaron.

    Note #4: Almost noone uses this essence in PvP due to "Can't mount" problem/intended.

    Note #5: So I guess I understand why you could complain before, but complaining now is just silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    What is Defiant equivalent?

    You have around 70% of population (guess, but I stick by it), meaning you have more recruits.
    ???? How does this even remotely apply?


    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    You have a neck for greenscale epic quest, guardians don't.
    That no one uses.


    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    You had a working greenscale epic quest when greenscale droppped the hearth for everyone, guardians didn't.
    ?????? Had being key word which was considered a Bug, hence the fix.


    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    You have the teleport trinket which can be considered a Slip Away, the most overpowered ability in the game (lols at the mages).
    Because we are obviously talking about PvP here.....and besides, no its not a slip away....not even close.



    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    Note #1: When people started progressing through GSB, I haven't seen anyone having this essence.

    Note #2: The essence was used in RoS.

    Note #3: The essence is not used in HK due to high amount of bugs with it, such as no visible circle at Sicaron.

    Note #4: Almost noone uses this essence in PvP due to "Can't mount" problem/intended.

    Note #5: So I guess I understand why you could complain before, but complaining now is just silly.
    I lol'd, another mouth breather trying to use vague bs to justify the reason we don't have any *real* equivalent. Buggy? Really? LOL.

    All the top Guardian HK guilds are still using these, to not do so is a loss in DPS.

    Trion need to once and for all speak up on why Defiant do not have such itemization, although, we did have, Gloamsilk Posion, until the mouth breathers on Guardian side whined a river and now they are just a waste of space for 2 dps.
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    While the post you quoted is completely ridiculous, the point about the bug on Sicaron is fairly significant. Once you get used to it, its not the end of the world but it is rather confusing when first learning the event especially if the timing of the proc is bad.

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    The Defiant equivalent is to just reroll Guardian. Stop crying and get over it, it's not even that big a deal.
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    I'll give Defiants that essence if you give us access to Gloamsilk Poison...
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    What about the stealth trinket (that also reduces threat) that only defiant get

    And seriously many people dont even use that essence anymore.. considering once you slot it.. you cant remove it from a sigil..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordOberon View Post
    What about the stealth trinket (that also reduces threat) that only defiant get
    I love that one, pretty useful to escape a horde of zerglings, because most will think i entered a Warfront.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tordana View Post
    I'll give Defiants that essence if you give us access to Gloamsilk Poison...
    after spotters change gloamsilk is not worthy to use and it doesn't stack if any other player uses it on same target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen View Post
    after spotters change gloamsilk is not worthy to use and it doesn't stack if any other player uses it on same target.
    Not only this, but they nerfed Gloamsilk posion into the ground and is not even remotely worth the cost for the time it is up, 2plat 50gold for a stack that gives you maybe an extra 2 dps? Yeah, Guardians, you can have it.

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    -Neck from epic life quest
    -Stealth trinket
    -Guns over Bows
    -Agility
    -Gloamsilk Poison
    -Etc


    What do guardians have?

    -Necrotic Essences
    -Dame/Sir prefix


    The necrotic essences aren't even BiS for most builds because they don't refresh themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    -Neck from epic life quest
    -Stealth trinket
    -Guns over Bows
    -Agility
    -Gloamsilk Poison
    -Etc


    What do guardians have?

    -Necrotic Essences
    -Dame/Sir prefix


    The necrotic essences aren't even BiS for most builds because they don't refresh themselves.
    Stealth Trinket = Almost completely useless
    Gloamsilk Poison = Now almost completely useless
    Epic Neck = I haven't seen anyone wearing this in months, there are much better drops about
    Etc = ???
    Gun vs Bow = They have the same stats, how is that a difference at all
    vs
    Necrotic Essence = BiS item until at least 1.6 for Mages

    I know which one I'd take every day of the week.
    Nope.

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