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    So we tried everything with the shield spikes. Even to the point of being spread way out and only tank doing any damage whatsoever. Everyone else clearly spaced with no bubbles even touching. 1200-1700 damage per tick on all 10 members every time. That cannot be right. Please re-hot (or perhaps cold?) fix this. Wasted a raid night on this. And yes. We were all very well-geared for that instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apomoros View Post
    So we tried everything with the shield spikes. Even to the point of being spread way out and only tank doing any damage whatsoever. Everyone else clearly spaced with no bubbles even touching. 1200-1700 damage per tick on all 10 members every time. That cannot be right. Please re-hot (or perhaps cold?) fix this. Wasted a raid night on this. And yes. We were all very well-geared for that instance.
    Heal through it. 1200 a tick on slow ticks such as those earthen spines can be very easily healed through with Doctrine of Loyalty (and your tank healer assisting aoe heals)

    I'd say the ideal healing setup is one sent/puri and one senticar. (for the entire instance)
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    I was unaware that it ever did less than that. In fact, I'm fairly certain it has always dealt around 1.5k damage, since it was released. It wasn't changed in the hotfix if it is still doing 1.5k damage.

    We usually use 1 chloromancer, a purifier/sentinel, and a warden/sentinel or a senticar, depending on who we have, and we barely notice the damage any more. Of course, most of us are in T1 raid gear, but the same should apply to T2 expert gear, just with a little more difficulty.

    If you can't heal through 5(?) slow ticks of 1.5k damage in a 10 man, then something is wrong. Maybe you should ask what specs your healers are running.

    EDIT: Just checked. There's nothing in the patch notes about changing Anrak's damage, and he's pretty perfectly tuned as he is. You probably need to look at your setup if you can't beat him.
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    senticar is what you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcruxs View Post
    senticar is what you need
    Competent players is what he needs, not an overpowered cleric build that shouldn't be capable of healing for near that much.

    I've solo-healed through it on a chloro, so there's something either wrong with the people you're playing with in terms of mental capability, or you should just add more healers to your current raid setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaer View Post
    Competent players is what he needs, not an overpowered cleric build that shouldn't be capable of healing for near that much.

    I've solo-healed through it on a chloro, so there's something either wrong with the people you're playing with in terms of mental capability, or you should just add more healers to your current raid setup.
    Senticar is hardly overpowered.

    Ward/Sent has far more potential AoE healing and Puri/sent or 51 puri is the best tank healing build anybody can bring into the raid.

    Just because a build contains a broken skill(DoL) doesn't automatically make it OP.

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    He seemed to do exactly the same damage for us tonight. Guurloth on the other hand, what the hell happened to his jumps? They seriously nerfed those jumps, such that the timing is almost not important.

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    Yea your still gonna take damage from the boulders when the aoe phase comes, its just a heal phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocalhealspam View Post
    Senticar is hardly overpowered.

    Ward/Sent has far more potential AoE healing and Puri/sent or 51 puri is the best tank healing build anybody can bring into the raid.

    Just because a build contains a broken skill(DoL) doesn't automatically make it OP.
    lol@ warden/sent

    Warden gives no burst aoe heals and is pretty much pointless for any raid setting.

    Rather, why would you use one over an -icar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    lol@ warden/sent

    Warden gives no burst aoe heals and is pretty much pointless for any raid setting.

    Rather, why would you use one over an -icar?
    Last I checked, Healing Communion healed roughly the same amount as a DoL.

    Not sure what you mean by "no burst aoe heals" when a single cast of HC is enough to top up the health of 10 raid members to full after getting hit by things like Soul Fracture.

    Do you need any other "burst" other than HC?

    Ward/Sent still has a niche at on-demand raid healing without the need for building convictions, while smoothing out raid spikes with precasts of Healing Flood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocalhealspam View Post
    Last I checked, Healing Communion healed roughly the same amount as a DoL.

    Not sure what you mean by "no burst aoe heals" when a single cast of HC is enough to top up the health of 10 raid members to full after getting hit by things like Soul Fracture.

    Do you need any other "burst" other than HC?

    Ward/Sent still has a niche at on-demand raid healing without the need for building convictions, while smoothing out raid spikes with precasts of Healing Flood.
    Again: why would you want it over any hybrid build? Warden doesn't add any dps to the fight and doctrine of loyalty is a guaranteed instant cast over your first HC cast (unless you're keeping up aoe hots the whole fight, which would be impossible to maintain mana with) or you're just spamming hots and getting crits on the tank. In that case, once again, you're adding no dps to the fight while a hybrid build does.

    Warden is pointless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    Again: why would you want it over any hybrid build? Warden doesn't add any dps to the fight and doctrine of loyalty is a guaranteed instant cast over your first HC cast (unless you're keeping up aoe hots the whole fight, which would be impossible to maintain mana with) or you're just spamming hots and getting crits on the tank. In that case, once again, you're adding no dps to the fight while a hybrid build does.

    Warden is pointless
    It's called Mental Flare, mana tonics and Cascade.

    You can replace 2 good hybrids with 1 good ward/sent and 1 dps, which would result in a dps gain overall.

    To you, "pointless" is having AoE heals on demand. You obviously do not understand the value of being able to heal without being tied down trying to generate convictions.

    Senticar is the only hybrid -icar build capable of fast cast HC(abelit expensive, but you have purpose) while convictions are down, but has negligible dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocalhealspam View Post
    It's called Mental Flare, mana tonics and Cascade.

    You can replace 2 good hybrids with 1 good ward/sent and 1 dps, which would result in a dps gain overall.

    To you, "pointless" is having AoE heals on demand. You obviously do not understand the value of being able to heal without being tied down trying to generate convictions.

    Senticar is the only hybrid -icar build capable of fast cast HC(abelit expensive, but you have purpose) while convictions are down, but has negligible dps.
    I don't really recall any raid encounters where you run out of convictions constantly, having nothing to dps.

    2 good hybrids is better than 1 ward/sent, just as 1 good hybrid is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    I don't really recall any raid encounters where you run out of convictions constantly, having nothing to dps.

    2 good hybrids is better than 1 ward/sent, just as 1 good hybrid is better.
    Doesn't change the point where 1 ward/sent can solo heal an encounter where you would need 2 hybrids.

    You still need 2 GCDs to output 1 heal on a hybrid, and ward/sent can output 1 heal with 1 GCD.

    Anybody can tell which is more mathematically and practically sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vocalhealspam View Post
    Doesn't change the point where 1 ward/sent can solo heal an encounter where you would need 2 hybrids.

    You still need 2 GCDs to output 1 heal on a hybrid, and ward/sent can output 1 heal with 1 GCD.

    Anybody can tell which is more mathematically and practically sound.
    Raid damage does NOT work like that. It's not huge ticks that constantly affect the raid; if it was, your healers would go oom pretty quick. It's either small ticks that can be passively healed (through hybrids/bards) or heavy spike damage healed with big AoE heals such as Doctrine of Loyalty or healing communion. By the time the next big spikes occur, the hybrid cleric can easily have all of their doctrines up. If you're going to spout this crap about warden/sentinels not needing extra global cooldowns to gain convictions, list the encounter where there's too much damage for hybrid healers to cover.

    Your point of ward/sent being able to solo heal a T2 is irrelevant for a raid environment. It's even more irrelevant considering any bad build can solo heal a T2, even moreso a HYBRID build. The other day I tanked DD and we got rapid assault with the only healer being an -icar hybrid of some sort.

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