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    So I was looking at these over today and does anyone thing some are just crazy now that we know the mechanics? From the bosses I have experience with:

    It's a Trap: If I'm reading this correctly, this means you can *never* use a crystal (on our kill, there are 0 crystals green when he dies, and we didn't get it, but maybe I am misunderstanding). I guess given enough gear you won't need to stun, but would be extremely difficult

    They Dug Too Deep : The trash to Grug takes some time and by all accounts Grug is an extremely long fight. I can't see HK gear really reducing that unless Grug's HP is nerfed badly or this timer is increased significantly.

    Vengenace is Mine : With the current scaling on Rend life, I can't imagine any amount of gearing will allow the Dolin tank to live through this.

    Contractual Obligation : 20 contracts means kill him in 400s. At 18.6m health, that's a raid dps of 46.5k. A "best case" situation which isn't possible in reality means this is a "patchwerk" dps of 36k (actually a bit more since best case isn't best case). Most parses of relic geared people I've seen is in the 2500 dps ballpark for rogues and warriors and a bit less for mages and clerics. This will be *very* difficult to do even in complete relics (which assuming you clear HK from week 1 forward will take 5 months).

    Now, I'm all for hard achievements or those that will require some gearing (No Power is trivial these days and used to be an insane though), but unless I'm missing something on a few of these, some are just plain impossible or will require gear from the next tier of raiding. Of course, I left off many achievements for the early bosses (and ignored the later bosses since I know nothing about them and can't really judge) that are completely doable and sound very fun to work on, but it feels like a few of them just missed the mark of current raiding reality.
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    You misunderstood on the "it's a trap achievement. It is talking about what the black ghosts do ;)
    Other than that, most achievements are impossible until relic gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vin Petrol View Post
    You misunderstood on the "it's a trap achievement. It is talking about what the black ghosts do ;)
    Other than that, most achievements are impossible until relic gear
    Ohh, thanks, ok that makes more sense!
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    Contractual Obligation is basically No Power hard mode, seems like.

    and on the other hand, "Wait, What?" seems a lot more than I thought doable. Sorta. Seems like you have to kill him with 5 butchers up while letting an imp heal him 5 times. Then you burn him back down.
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    I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know.
    Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.

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    err. 5 imps, burning them down after they heal. Stupid 5 min edit.
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    I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know.
    Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.

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    btw, the delay between each unholy contract is 25 seconds, not 20, so u have 500 seconds in total, + 24 seconds on the last one, effective dps needed is roughly 36k rdps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharogy View Post
    btw, the delay between each unholy contract is 25 seconds, not 20, so u have 500 seconds in total, + 24 seconds on the last one, effective dps needed is roughly 36k rdps.
    so about 29k-30k sustained when the buff is taken into consideration, with a little bit of DPS difference to account for contract placement and stuff. That's not TOO bad.
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    I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know.
    Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europe View Post
    so about 29k-30k sustained when the buff is taken into consideration, with a little bit of DPS difference to account for contract placement and stuff. That's not TOO bad.
    given currently on live, after the recent buff all the top guilds are struggling to put up 26000+ rdps (which is needed to down him), to go up to 36000 seems quite a stretch still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharogy View Post
    btw, the delay between each unholy contract is 25 seconds, not 20, so u have 500 seconds in total, + 24 seconds on the last one, effective dps needed is roughly 36k rdps.
    It's definitely 20-21s for us (staring at chat logs with his emote right now).
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    Quote Originally Posted by arthureld View Post
    It's definitely 20-21s for us (staring at chat logs with his emote right now).
    ah yeh u are right ;d, i must be looking at the wrong timers.

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