River of Souls Trash Makes Me Want to Cancel My Account

[Fluffycalico]

Obivously I did. And RoS trash is more annoying than either. It's comparable to AQ40 trash, and that's not a good thing.

Why are people in this thread so determined to defend this obnoxious trash? Do you really want every raid to be designed like this from here on out? Look, I get that it can be managed. My own raid manages it. But it's tedious as hell, and it's in all of our best interests to let the devs know this and not to repeat this particular raid design in the future. It's stupid timesink we can all do without.

If you can't handle the trash you don't deserve the boss loot.

[TheRealCheesy]

If you don't feel the pain when I say "pre nerf mimiron trash" you don't know **** about trash.

[Fried]

Obivously I did. And RoS trash is more annoying than either. It's comparable to AQ40 trash, and that's not a good thing.

Why are people in this thread so determined to defend this obnoxious trash? Do you really want every raid to be designed like this from here on out? Look, I get that it can be managed. My own raid manages it. But it's tedious as hell, and it's in all of our best interests to let the devs know this and not to repeat this particular raid design in the future. It's stupid timesink we can all do without.

AQ40 Trash created some of my favorite memories in WoW. Trash before Ouro and C'thun instantly respawning after we killed it preventing two world first kills for my guild, while frustrating, made us more creative, our rogues eneded up studying the trash paths for over 30 hours combined between them, and our guild as a whole came out stronger because of it.

Why do you seem to expect everything to be handed to you so easily? Trash is and should be a part of all raids. The more time put into raids makes the accomplishment of finishing the raid that much better. It's not particularly hard trash at all, but having obstacles is a good thing, IMO.

[oui]

There will always be braggarts who say "lol faceroll trash just use cc I'm awesome." But you have to agree that the quality of game time is greatly diminished when you're having to clear an hours worth of trash for a 5 minute boss fight.

[TyrLith]

There will always be braggarts who say "lol faceroll trash just use cc I'm awesome." But you have to agree that the quality of game time is greatly diminished when you're having to clear an hours worth of trash for a 5 minute boss fight.

CC?what.. we just aoe everything down.. :\ have 3 tanks chainpull trash..

[Vidrak]

It isn't that bad. But I do agree, there is probably a little too much trash in there.

If the trash pulls are difficult, then make 3-5 pulls and that be it. We cleared 2 bosses and the focuses last night in under 3 hours, and 95% of the time was spent clearing trash. We only wiped one time on a boss too.

Overall, it gets a little old clearing trash mobs with 20 people. The only benefit I see from it is getting random drops from mobs, and of course the faction for some people.

But yes, the amount of trash should be decreased some ...

[BlackLotus0014]

So yesterday we went RoS with the guild. We raided for 4 hours. In that time, we spent 15 mins on a Dark Focus and 30 mins on Warmaster Galenir, the remaining 3 hours 15 mins were on trash. We aren't very experienced in RoS, but still this should say enough.

Is most of the trash in the instance just in the first part leading up to Warmaster, or is there still a ton between the other bosses as well? I read that once Warmaster is dead a lot (or maybe all) of the trash leading up to him stays despawned. Can anyone verify or comment on any of this? Thanks.

[Jackrina]

I guess they should put in a VOA so you can get loot by just fighting bosses and getting your looties so you can go rejoice with your easy gear?

[Flaviusx]

If you don't feel the pain when I say "pre nerf mimiron trash" you don't know **** about trash.

Actually, I rather enjoyed that trash.

[Flaviusx]

If you can't handle the trash you don't deserve the boss loot.

It's not a question of being able to handle the trash. It's a question of tedium and timesinks. The trash is excessive and frontloaded and people try to keep turning this into a lrn2play thing. It's not.

[Flaviusx]

AQ40 Trash created some of my favorite memories in WoW. Trash before Ouro and C'thun instantly respawning after we killed it preventing two world first kills for my guild, while frustrating, made us more creative, our rogues eneded up studying the trash paths for over 30 hours combined between them, and our guild as a whole came out stronger because of it.

Why do you seem to expect everything to be handed to you so easily? Trash is and should be a part of all raids. The more time put into raids makes the accomplishment of finishing the raid that much better. It's not particularly hard trash at all, but having obstacles is a good thing, IMO.

It's a quality of life thing. I'm cool with challenging trash. I'm not cool with sheer timesinks. There's nothing interesting about this trash after the 12th pull. It also seems to me ridiculous the amount of pulls involved before you arrive at an actual boss fight (and I mean a real boss fight, not the foci.)

[puddin]

Happy Dunfail? Your trash has been reduced, now kill some bosses and don't cry about the trash.

[opaque]

If you don't feel the pain when I say "pre nerf mimiron trash" you don't know **** about trash.

You may want to look deeper into the history of the game you are referencing before talking about knowing nothing about trash.