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    Default Rogue vs Warrior Drama over Loot

    Short history of the issue:
    Rogues primary stat = Dex
    Warrior primary stat = Str

    Warrior: Str = 75% AP | Dex = 25% AP | 1 Dex = 1 Physical Crit
    Rogue: Str = 25% AP | Dex = 75% AP | 1 Dex = 1 Physical Crit

    AP - does not affect your damage output in a visible way ~apparently
    DPS - is all about stacking as much Crit ~ apparently

    Plate DPS gear is high in Str
    Leather DPS gear is high in Dex
    ~so the conflict begins~

    With all DPS Warriors rolling on Leather gear ~ pissing off Rogues
    What do we do with all the "worthless" DPS plate? I suppose we could just rune-break it?
    Or do we force Warriors to stick with Plate and let Rogues have their Leather?

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    You are completely correct on all accounts.

    Being a Warrior and a Tank, I run into the problem of DPS Warriors also rolling on Tank gear...

    I am starting to wonder if a special needs children living facility opened up and forced them to all make dps warriors.

    Seriously people, get a clue and figure it out. If you have to lick the window, eat some paint, and slap yourself a hundred times before you sit down and play, then maybe you should go back and play pinball.

    Der Der, Rogues wear leather!

    Der Der, DPS Warriors wear Plate w/o Parry/Dodge/Toughness

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    After warrior nerfs dex is way more important for warriors who are deep in RB and that's why warriors are so keen on rogue loot. However in our guild runs we still prioritize rogues for dex items ~~

    Oh and isn't warrior 50% str and 50% dex?
    Last edited by GoldenArrow; 04-08-2011 at 09:21 PM.

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    @GoldenArrow

    No its 75% Str and 25% Dex

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenArrow View Post
    After warrior nerfs dex is way more important for warriors who are deep in RB and that's why warriors are so keen on rogue loot. However in our guild runs we still prioritize rogues for dex items ~~

    Oh and isn't warrior 50% str and 50% dex?
    It really doesn't matter what % of STR vs DEX a warrior uses.

    Point blank situation.

    Leater gloves drop with a sizeable amount of Dex. Rogue rolls. Warrior rolls.... Warrior Wins!...

    Next Dungeon.

    Plate gloves drop with equal sizeable amount of Dex. Rogue CANNOT roll. Warrior rolls.....Warrior Wins!.....

    really?

    ... I am glad your guild issues loot out well, but the average window licker pug does not.
    Last edited by Thwaite; 04-08-2011 at 09:30 PM.

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    As long as i can do more DPS in leather and high dex items ima take them.

    Who are YOU to say otherwise!

    btw i got a server first Leather DPS helm today from a T2. The rogue was pretty angry and he ragelogged but its his fault because my Need roll was just higher. Wasnt my fault. Maybe he shoulda got mad at the random number generator instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGoogly View Post
    As long as i can do more DPS in leather and high dex items ima take them.

    Who are YOU to say otherwise!

    btw i got a server first Leather DPS helm today from a T2. The rogue was pretty angry and he ragelogged but its his fault because my Need roll was just higher. Wasnt my fault. Maybe he shoulda got mad at the random number generator instead?
    I think you are the dumbest person on earth.

    Please knock the dried cheese off of yourself and go outside.

    Maybe read a book?

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    As far as progressing one's character goes I think he's fine. If it is indeed an upgrade go for it. There is no loot etiquette in PuGs. Guild runs are different, and safer for the previously mentioned reason. You want leather to strictly for to a rogue... dungeon with your guild. You want to see a focus neck go to a tank... pug (just happened to me and it was lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGoogly View Post
    As long as i can do more DPS in leather and high dex items ima take them.

    Who are YOU to say otherwise!

    btw i got a server first Leather DPS helm today from a T2. The rogue was pretty angry and he ragelogged but its his fault because my Need roll was just higher. Wasnt my fault. Maybe he shoulda got mad at the random number generator instead?
    Would get kicked from any pug i was in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaalith View Post
    Hello rogues, look at your dps. Now back to mine, now back at your dps, now back to mine.
    Sadly it isn't like mine. But if you stopped playing a broken class and rerolled as a mage yours could feel like mine.
    Look down, back up. Where are you? You're respawning. Everything is possible when you're a bright wizard. I'm on a horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatGoogly View Post
    As long as i can do more DPS in leather and high dex items ima take them.

    Who are YOU to say otherwise!

    btw i got a server first Leather DPS helm today from a T2. The rogue was pretty angry and he ragelogged but its his fault because my Need roll was just higher. Wasnt my fault. Maybe he shoulda got mad at the random number generator instead?
    Thanks, from now on my PuGs are master looter :>

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenArrow View Post
    Thanks, from now on my PuGs are master looter :>
    This is why I Master Looter just about everything I run. No exceptions.

    Dummies tend to seep through the cracks so you can never be too careful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Player0ne View Post
    This thread screams, " I'm glad healing is getting nerfed..now please dont quit healing us."

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    Why aren't you guys gearing up in Guild runs and are instead trusting your luck to random rolls?
    Last edited by Treras; 04-09-2011 at 04:57 AM.

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    Blame Trion for dailing at stats scalings...

    Leather gear is just better.

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    This game gets more like *cough* wow every day.

    EXACT same issue for the same reason, certainly in TBC..

    Personally I wouldn't roll on leather on my dps warr if a rogue wanted it even in a pug (nor would I roll on tank plate if I wasn't tanking). However, it's difficult to blame people for rolling on stuff that actually makes their character do their job better. I think the real blame lies with the dev's (sorry Trion, I think you're doing a great job on the whole, and this is meant as constructive critisism) who set up a system where warrs benefit more, point for point, from dex than str.

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    haven't seen this yet, but i generally do guild only runs

    also, i don't see a problem with dps wars rolling on tank gear. the more geared tanks the better i say

    although i guess u need to agree beforehand

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