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    Default Cleric craft ring upgrade mistake?

    The new cleric craft ring "Detailed Thalcrystal Ringlet" which I think I upgraded once had 105 endurance. If you upgrade this to "Exquisite Thalcrystal Ringlet" the endurance drops to 102.

    This can't be right. I don't want to upgrade the rings till this can be confirmed as right or wrong.
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    this happens all the time with crafted there where you loose a small amount of endurance in play of dps/heal stats. This way normally it still keep the drop ones to be better but in the case of this ring there just isnt any dropped expert ones that are better

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    So, taking a quick look at this it appears that this is a Cleric DPS ring.

    Without having a chat with Josh York, it looks like the intent is to trade off some HP for other more DPS focused stats:



    I don't have a stat parsing tool with me, but that seems like a fairly reasonable trade.



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    Considering it is a higher "tier" item (look at the resistance) I don't think this should be the way it is. However this wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Even the cleric tanking wand from 10man loses endurance when upgraded.

    Last edited by Pokesi; 12-18-2014 at 03:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticus View Post
    So, taking a quick look at this it appears that this is a Cleric DPS ring.

    Without having a chat with Josh York, it looks like the intent is to trade off some HP for other more DPS focused stats:



    I don't have a stat parsing tool with me, but that seems like a fairly reasonable trade.



    The question was asked if it was a mistake. No one said it wasn't better. Are the other 3 classes also losing endurance points when upgrading their rings? in which case all is good or is it a mistake that needs to be fixed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickNico View Post
    The question was asked if it was a mistake.
    My answer is that it looks intentional without asking the item creator.

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    I've added some additional endurance.

    The intent is that the upgrade is allocated to primary stats, but not that you lose any END for it.

    Pokesi, Chainbreaker got a stat upgrade earlier.

    Thanks, everyone.
    Last edited by Josh York; 01-14-2015 at 02:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    I've added some additional endurance.

    The intent is that the upgrade is allocated to primary stats, but not that you lose any END for it.

    Pokesi, Chainbreaker got a stat upgrade earlier.

    Thanks, everyone.
    What about the Mage's Relic Liquid Sword which you lose INT AND WISDOM for **UPGRADING IT WITH A HEART OF THE FROZEN**??!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    I've added some additional endurance.

    The intent is that the upgrade is allocated to primary stats, but not that you lose any END for it.

    Pokesi, Chainbreaker got a stat upgrade earlier.

    Thanks, everyone.
    Thank you Josh. I hope those made already get changed. I have to check when I relog on.
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    Yep, Aleitsel. I have lots of love headed your way.

    Raid Weapons
    • Increased proc damage for Relic 2 hand weapons.
    • Boosted the proc rate for totems and other DPS oriented 1 handed weapons.
    • Alison the 5th and The Liquid Sword have gained additional stats.
    • Shij Ir, the Gatherer of Shadows and Ekor Ira, Hand of Threngar will now drop with a DPS oriented proc. Existing items can be converted or enjoyed as is.
    • Fixed a case where effects which modified damage or healing from Nightmare Tide weapon procs would not modify those procs.
    • Fixed the rendered graphic for: Dead Dreams and Call of the Stormbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    Yep, Aleitsel. I have lots of love headed your way.

    Raid Weapons
    • Increased proc damage for Relic 2 hand weapons.
    • Boosted the proc rate for totems and other DPS oriented 1 handed weapons.
    • Alison the 5th and The Liquid Sword have gained additional stats.
    • Shij Ir, the Gatherer of Shadows and Ekor Ira, Hand of Threngar will now drop with a DPS oriented proc. Existing items can be converted or enjoyed as is.
    • Fixed a case where effects which modified damage or healing from Nightmare Tide weapon procs would not modify those procs.
    • Fixed the rendered graphic for: Dead Dreams and Call of the Stormbreaker.
    Cool thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    Yep, Aleitsel. I have lots of love headed your way.

    Raid Weapons
    • Increased proc damage for Relic 2 hand weapons.
    • Boosted the proc rate for totems and other DPS oriented 1 handed weapons.
    • Alison the 5th and The Liquid Sword have gained additional stats.
    • Shij Ir, the Gatherer of Shadows and Ekor Ira, Hand of Threngar will now drop with a DPS oriented proc. Existing items can be converted or enjoyed as is.
    • Fixed a case where effects which modified damage or healing from Nightmare Tide weapon procs would not modify those procs.
    • Fixed the rendered graphic for: Dead Dreams and Call of the Stormbreaker.
    T1 trinket proc dmg increase is missing on that list(from PTS).

    Some questions:
    Will the T1 trinkets be upgraded into relic or transcendent(upgrade path and result seems unfinished on PTS for mage)?

    Are there new shiny transcendent weapons from Mecha-Crucia(upgradable Threngar weapons?)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    Yep, Aleitsel. I have lots of love headed your way.

    Raid Weapons
    • Increased proc damage for Relic 2 hand weapons.
    • Boosted the proc rate for totems and other DPS oriented 1 handed weapons.
    • Alison the 5th and The Liquid Sword have gained additional stats.
    • Shij Ir, the Gatherer of Shadows and Ekor Ira, Hand of Threngar will now drop with a DPS oriented proc. Existing items can be converted or enjoyed as is.
    • Fixed a case where effects which modified damage or healing from Nightmare Tide weapon procs would not modify those procs.
    • Fixed the rendered graphic for: Dead Dreams and Call of the Stormbreaker.
    The tooltip increased but the actual damage is still the same on the 2H


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh York View Post
    Yep, Aleitsel. I have lots of love headed your way.[*]Shij Ir, the Gatherer of Shadows and Ekor Ira, Hand of Threngar will now drop with a DPS oriented proc. Existing items can be converted or enjoyed as is.[/LIST]
    Do you mean you are adding a dps proc in addition to the healing proc? Or are you removing the option for relic weapons with a healing proc to drop? That would be very disapointing.

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    Latest pts build shows that the proc appears to be working properly.

    For those who are curious, procced 28 times in 3 minutes.
    Last edited by meph1111; 01-22-2015 at 12:17 PM.

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