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    Default Some Paragon/Warlord love finally?

    PTS Forum Balance Updates:

    WARRIOR
    Riftblade
    Legendary Icy Burst now scales with the number of AP on cast.

    Warlord
    Legendary Breaking Blow now consumes up to 30 additional Power maximum.
    Legendary Sergeant's Order is no longer overwritten by another warrior casting it.
    Legendary A Quick Death damage increased by roughly 35%.

    Paragon
    Alacrity no longer reduces PVP damage.


    Looks like Paragon might actually become viable in PvP again if this makes it through the testing process! Legendary Breaking Blow might even become usable with that reduction in power cost.
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    For what i've seen playing it, paragon doesn't really need change in pvp but some other specs need adjustment (elem, sin burst, necro, etc.).
    Riftblade will takes some nerf with the nerf of icy proc and other legendaries procs what i think it's ok, but it would be clever to make it works with turn the blade(paragon) to be competitive in pvp because applicate Frost strike, Rift Strike and legendary Shock pulse in pvp with a 1.5s gcd plus slow movement.

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    Paragon and warlord will become viable when the range damage isn't as crazy as it is now. Nice to see that the pvp reduction was removed on alacrity, going on the pts and seeing it reduce all damage, even charges (lol) was pretty sad.

    Riftblade will probably be put on the backburner once the shockpulse legendary fix is in. It's the only reason Rb can compete right now.
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    I think the whole thing is ridiculous.

    Any spec that on the surface would seem could sustain melee just doesn't.
    Any kind of hybrid whether it be warlord/pala or parapala just doesn't yield any kind of survivability for sacrifice you make losing the whole entire classes damage.
    these hybrids have their whole entire ability to melee wrapped up in some 2 min cool down.
    Blocking is non existent. clerics sustain better melee yet can't be blocked. harb always seemed to be blocked much less but still rarely does. If you go up against anotehr warrior only spec that works is rift blade can't be blocked.
    1v1 is slap in the face. and yes it does matter because it happens in wf's to.
    in most cases if you spend 2 god forsaken secs in melee and get out with low life every single time you watch your self die to a dot waiting for out of combat mechanic an eternity later.
    it's the hardest class to play.
    riftblade is powerful yet still takes longer to set up burst compared to classes doing the same or more damage from a further distance.
    the community is mind numingly ignorant to the condition of class balance in pvp.

    I understand you needed primalist to be more popular but before letting them melt our face off before we even get into melee

    throw us a ****ing bone first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVGVSTVS View Post
    I think the whole thing is ridiculous.

    Any spec that on the surface would seem could sustain melee just doesn't.
    Any kind of hybrid whether it be warlord/pala or parapala just doesn't yield any kind of survivability for sacrifice you make losing the whole entire classes damage.
    these hybrids have their whole entire ability to melee wrapped up in some 2 min cool down.
    Blocking is non existent. clerics sustain better melee yet can't be blocked. harb always seemed to be blocked much less but still rarely does. If you go up against anotehr warrior only spec that works is rift blade can't be blocked.
    1v1 is slap in the face. and yes it does matter because it happens in wf's to.
    in most cases if you spend 2 god forsaken secs in melee and get out with low life every single time you watch your self die to a dot waiting for out of combat mechanic an eternity later.
    it's the hardest class to play.
    riftblade is powerful yet still takes longer to set up burst compared to classes doing the same or more damage from a further distance.
    the community is mind numingly ignorant to the condition of class balance in pvp.

    I understand you needed primalist to be more popular but before letting them melt our face off before we even get into melee

    throw us a ****ing bone first.
    for 1v1 play parachanter or wl/wc..just go 18 wc and u gonna beat the crap out of most specs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kajib View Post
    for 1v1 play parachanter or wl/wc..just go 18 wc and u gonna beat the crap out of most specs.
    WUT?

    Are you trolling? To each his own I suppose. Some folks like playing tank/dps hybrids and PAR/WC hybrid is basically the same idea; sacrificing significant DPS for heals/mitigation.

    Right now in PvP, it seems that unless you play RB, then you're only other melee option as a warrior is to play a tank-ish build and go for distraction/objectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigTerj View Post
    WUT?

    Are you trolling? To each his own I suppose. Some folks like playing tank/dps hybrids and PAR/WC hybrid is basically the same idea; sacrificing significant DPS for heals/mitigation.

    Right now in PvP, it seems that unless you play RB, then you're only other melee option as a warrior is to play a tank-ish build and go for distraction/objectives.
    that spec is for 1v1, most of the damage comes from retaliation,sb and builders.

    It can never kill a healer unless its really a bad one.

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