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    Default Latest PTS changes (12.17.2016)

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    Warrior
    Riftblade
    Legendary Icy Burst and Flamespear now have a .5s ICD
    Legendary Rift Burst buff reduced to 65%.

    Reaver
    Legendary Viral Stream - Damage increased by 20% per DoT on target.
    Legendary Dire Blow - Damage reduced. Now correctly scales with Attack Points as intended.

    Paragon
    Legendary Rising Waterfall mutlihit chance increased to 40%.
    Legendary Alacrity 3rd attack chance increased to 75%. Also causes attacks to deal 20% less damage in PVP.

    Tempest
    Legendary Shock Pulse now has a .5s ICD
    Legendary Skyfall damage increased substantially.
    Legendary Double Pulse now triggers 3 1 Point Skyfalls.

    Not sure about balance changes to other classes, I also haven't really checked tooltip numbers or talent changes, but this pretty much kills the warrior. We relied too much on atleast shock pulse in every DPS spec.

    Edit: Thanks to DarkDaemon for some more changes. Tempest hype!
    Last edited by dunkelst; 12-16-2016 at 05:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkelst View Post
    Riftblade:
    - Icy Burst triggers only up to twice per second. Damage doesn't seem changed to compensate.

    Tempest:
    - Shock Pulse triggers only up to twice per second. Damage doesn't seem changed to compensate.
    - Skyfall damage has been almost doubled on both direct and lightning rod parts.
    - Double Pulse trigger three 1 AP Skyfall instead of one.

    Paragon:
    - Rising Waterfall chance buffed from 30% to 40%.
    - Alacrity chance buffed from 50% to 75%. 20% damage reduction while active in PvP. Tooltip indicates all damage reduced.

    Not sure about balance changes to other classes, I also haven't really checked tooltip numbers or talent changes, but this pretty much kills the warrior. We relied too much on atleast shock pulse in every DPS spec.

    Edit: Thanks to DarkDaemon for some more changes. Tempest hype!
    Good to see Paragon buff.

    Trion better do something with mage overlords and clerics ranged dps, and nerf ranger.

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    Everything's going to be OK we have one button tempest now (not any of that two button garbage)

    https://i.imgur.com/KsztH0M.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkelst View Post
    Riftblade:
    - Icy Burst triggers only up to twice per second. Damage doesn't seem changed to compensate.

    Tempest:
    - Shock Pulse triggers only up to twice per second. Damage doesn't seem changed to compensate.
    - Skyfall damage has been almost doubled on both direct and lightning rod parts.
    - Double Pulse trigger three 1 AP Skyfall instead of one.

    Paragon:
    - Rising Waterfall chance buffed from 30% to 40%.
    - Alacrity chance buffed from 50% to 75%. 20% damage reduction while active in PvP. Tooltip indicates all damage reduced.

    Not sure about balance changes to other classes, I also haven't really checked tooltip numbers or talent changes, but this pretty much kills the warrior. We relied too much on atleast shock pulse in every DPS spec.

    Edit: Thanks to DarkDaemon for some more changes. Tempest hype!
    Is the 20% damage reduction applied to outgoing damage or incoming during alacrity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulutala View Post
    Is the 20% damage reduction applied to outgoing damage or incoming during alacrity?
    Outgoing in pvp.

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    Would love to see something done with Warlord. It is my favourite soul but feels clunky to me personally at the moment. Nice paragon changes though and I think the 0.5second cd on shock pulse and flame spear is needed.

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    *sigh* did riftblade really need that nerf?

    I has a sad now

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    Quote Originally Posted by SecondBass View Post
    Everything's going to be OK we have one button tempest now (not any of that two button garbage)

    https://i.imgur.com/KsztH0M.jpg
    It's only fair with them OP 1 button specs from other classes lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkelst View Post
    Edit: Thanks to DarkDaemon for some more changes. Tempest hype!
    Thanks Darkdaemon for making Warrior soo great!
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    Warrior healer hype??
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    Did some quick parses on PTS.

    Here are my stats in 61 tempest. I used the expert dungeon gear and fragment cape with an empty fragment set. I used no runes other than cp on seal (no seal was provided in the chests). My focus had 2886str and 1992cp. Martial Crystal for everything.
    Every parse was on the 19% Simulation Injury outside of Alittu on PTS.
    I always stopped before the next burst. If SO was used, I stopped right before I would use the burst + SO again.

    In general:
    SP is dead. RS or Para-SS are better now.
    I had ACT parses, but I messed up the settings, so a lot of stuff (SP, Icy, etc) were still being redirected to Peter :P
    Lag as an EU player was pretty bad. Felt it in paragon and riftblade the most.

    Paragon:
    61pg/15wl/0rv, Ala + RW + Unleashed + SO + RS, no PM cuz power issues.
    242k, should be around 250k with PM.
    A single parse isn't really saying a lot as paragon has insane RNG in its DPS, even with the buffed chances.

    Warlord:
    61wl/7rb/8rv, RP + EIAW + AQD + RS + Icy
    260k when I started running away from the dummy.

    Riftblade:
    Didn't parse very long, still had ES (5% of my DPS, PS should be better), I was at about 270k.

    Reaver:
    61rv/8tp/0wl, SF instead of SP.
    330k. Para-SS was about the same, don't have a parse for that.

    Tempest:
    61tp/15rv/0wl, Fluid Movements for power reasons. PM should be at about 7-8k.
    Proper rotation: 330k with PM added.
    1 button: <300k before 2rd SO. I used Charged DP SF Dual Delayed SP for my macro. Skipping SF was a DPS loss for me.

    What I would like to see is essences added to the cape as well so we just parse with no focus as well.
    Last edited by dunkelst; 12-17-2016 at 06:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkelst View Post
    Did some quick parses on PTS.

    Paragon:
    61pg/15wl/0rv, Ala + RW + Unleashed + SO + RS, no PM cuz power issues.
    242k, should be around 250k with PM.
    A single parse isn't really saying a lot as paragon has insane RNG in its DPS, even with the buffed chances.

    Warlord:
    Dead. I tested my Riftblade version. It still buffed everything, but we cannot sustain the power anymore because of Icy/SP changes. I didn't bother with a non-gimmicky warlord, should be even worse DPS.

    Riftblade:
    Didn't parse very long, still had ES (5% of my DPS, PS should be better), I was at about 270k.

    Reaver:
    61rv/8tp/0wl, SF instead of SP.
    330k. Para-SS was about the same, don't have a parse for that.

    Tempest:
    61tp/15rv/0wl, Fluid Movements for power reasons. PM should be at about 7-8k.
    Proper rotation: 330k with PM added.
    I parsed using live gear, adjusting for the differences in stats, I got roughly the same results. Riftblade, Paragon and WL are ways behind. Tempest is slightly ahead of Reaver and Both Reaver and Tempest are behind other callings. With Paragon I used the old 10WL/5Temp variant though Ravaging Strike shouldn't make that much of a difference.

    Shock Pulse nerf ruined Riftblade and needs to be buffed to compensate.
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    I also did some parses to compare the specs. Used live gear (no consumables) and did it in my dimension on lv67 Raid Dummy.

    Here are the results:

    Riftblade 280k:
    http://i.imgur.com/0lgjzlJ.jpg


    Paragon 260k:
    http://i.imgur.com/6WFquEf.jpg


    Warlord (Icy) 260k:
    http://i.imgur.com/0N3qw7p.jpg


    Reaver 330k:
    http://i.imgur.com/MBbqsPL.jpg


    Tempest 320k:
    http://i.imgur.com/rj4xGW2.jpg


    1 target Champion 300k:
    http://i.imgur.com/Lfz1z8Y.jpg


    2 target Champion 320k ST main target:
    http://i.imgur.com/PpdsZ8G.jpg


    Bestmaster 260k (raid support and gets buffed like crazy)
    http://i.imgur.com/IohNd2C.jpg


    Im still mostly wondering WHY ITS RANGED > AOE > MELEE IN ST DPS. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Atm specs with little/no AoE do lowest ST damage and Ranged AoE specs do most as shown in posts in the thread.
    Last edited by Sahtiaro; 12-17-2016 at 06:23 AM.
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    Why is Champion ahead of the other 3 melee specs...
    Rompalstomp - Raid Lead / Warrior Lead "Nefarious"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waseem2k View Post
    Why is Champion ahead of the other 3 melee specs...
    Balance....
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