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    Default Simple VK question

    Is unstable reaction worth it against a single target?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbe View Post
    Is unstable reaction worth it against a single target?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbe View Post
    Is unstable reaction worth it against a single target?
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    Yes.
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    Unstable Reaction is a DPS loss for single target, especially when combined with Deliberate Strikes. The only time to really use Unstable Reaction single target is if you need pacts or need to regen power, otherwise you are better off with Reckless Strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughRaptors View Post
    Unstable Reaction is a DPS loss for single target, especially when combined with Deliberate Strikes. The only time to really use Unstable Reaction single target is if you need pacts or need to regen power, otherwise you are better off with Reckless Strike.
    So my answer was correct then.
    Thank you for confirming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughRaptors View Post
    Unstable Reaction is a DPS loss for single target, especially when combined with Deliberate Strikes. The only time to really use Unstable Reaction single target is if you need pacts or need to regen power, otherwise you are better off with Reckless Strike.
    Okay I figured it was something like that. It is nice for power regen. I wasn't considering dps only but threat as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbe View Post
    Okay I figured it was something like that. It is nice for power regen. I wasn't considering dps only but threat as well.
    Dps IS Threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Repster View Post
    Dps IS Threat.
    Unstable Reaction generate extra threat thru generation of pacts.

    RR probably know if it does more threat because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snap View Post
    Unstable Reaction generate extra threat thru generation of pacts.

    RR probably know if it does more threat because of it.
    its a dps LOSS to use in a ST rotation.
    are you intentionally trying to be obtuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repster View Post
    Dps IS Threat.
    Maybe this is outdated info but I thought some attacks (Reckless Strike being one of them) generated additional threat and it wasn't 1:1 with the damage.
    Last edited by dbe; 08-29-2015 at 10:05 AM.

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    Most abilities in tanking souls provide additional threat. The modifier is very low on most abilities. UR provides okay threat for ST, but nothing Reckless wouldn't do, especially since Reckless and Devouring proc Destructive Forces. UR into a Tempest provides better aoe threat when pulling from range, though. The threat provided through pact generation (Surge) is extremely lousy and unreliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbe View Post
    Maybe this is outdated info but I thought some attacks (Reckless Strike being one of them) generated additional threat and it wasn't 1:1 with the damage.
    That is correct. It is NOT 1:1. It's MORE. It's 1: X. X being 1 multiplied by threat mod. Do 10 damage? Get 10*threat mod Threat. do 100 damage? Do 100*threat mod Threat.

    More damage = More threat.

    We don't get giant chunks of threat out of nowhere, most of out threat is directly based on our damage.
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    The bottom line is this when it comes to initial threat, whether that's on pull or with new adds. VK is extremely sub-par and Paladin is quite good. Threat after an initial pull is irrelevant because once something is on you it's going to stick to you no matter what since threat is very easy to maintain in this game, unless you actively avoid keeping threat on something, which is just bad practice.

    Anyways, to tl;dr this thread concerning UR, it has its uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phartoute View Post
    its a dps LOSS to use in a ST rotation.
    are you intentionally trying to be obtuse?
    The OP was talking about threat not DPS.
    If anyone is being obtuse here it's you.
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