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    Default Please comment on my Parse

    This is 40 champ, 26 BM spec http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...udz.yVzbV0u.-5
    I have all my PA in 2h, and axe.

    How am I doing with this spec with other specs out there? Please comment. I tried outer specs posted in the forum but cannot beat the result of this, self buffed.

    Here is my Parse
    http://liubros.net/files/parse/dps-breakdown.jpg

    Here is my gears and stats with buff
    http://liubros.net/files/parse/dps-stats.jpg

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    my comment is - Does not belong in "Guiudes" section

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    Pretty sure thats dam close to the top dps spec atm

    I just tested shuns 51/9/6 champ/para/rb spec and i was holding 2.7k ST DPS on dummy and i have the exact same gear as you do except the trinket, im using the pvp one.

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    Default Umm...

    So I realize I don't post as much as some of you folks (lookin' at you with that ****in' smiley face...) but can we not call it "Shun's" champ build? I'm not trying to start beef, but 51 champ was a build long before 1.8 came out, just wasn't viable as a top dps spec until know. It isn't like he discovered something new, just "Christopher Columbus'd" something that was already there.

    You kill a lot of "enjin's" with 51 champ though.

    Oh, and umm... nice parse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archo View Post
    So I realize I don't post as much as some of you folks (lookin' at you with that ****in' smiley face...) but can we not call it "Shun's" champ build? I'm not trying to start beef, but 51 champ was a build long before 1.8 came out, just wasn't viable as a top dps spec until know. It isn't like he discovered something new, just "Christopher Columbus'd" something that was already there.

    You kill a lot of "enjin's" with 51 champ though.

    Oh, and umm... nice parse?
    Well, frankly there are multiple guides on teh same build, and ever writer and their mom likes to tack on their name to it. Not saying they are all vain, some just do it to make it clear it is a "different" guide possibly offering new tips/mechanics/rotations/skills. I am fine with that and personally dont give two hoots what people call the builds... i always refer to them as simple points... the 51/9/6 build.

    as for the parse, its not bad. 51/9/6 can definitely get higher single target, if the rotation is done correctly in your same gear. But all in all, i know they pull fairly close ST. AoE ofc they are separated by a more noticeable margin. So in your gear you are roughly where you should be. I think you afford to drop a bit of crit for more AP, since it scales so well in raids now. you would see a noticeable difference. (your source machine could probablt drop 1-2 crit lessers for AP).

    you only really need to worry about getting more crit when you get more id gear, it seems to actually drop off as you get into the full set.

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    Thanks for the input. As I am max out on Crit, should I remove a lesser essence and use a greater for beast master? I don't know if it help or not. Any thoughts on that?

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    also, you should be getting a fire resist core, which will change your stats as well, and might need to adjust some things here or there. But you def dont need 1200+ self buff crit, even though you have 40 from BM

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    Quote Originally Posted by darric View Post
    Thanks for the input. As I am max out on Crit, should I remove a lesser essence and use a greater for beast master? I don't know if it help or not. Any thoughts on that?
    While i cannot directly comment on the BM greater essence, since i never tested it...
    I can say that if you are decked out with full crit lessers, you definitly can drop 1-2 for the AP heavy ones.

    Examining the essence at face value make it seem like it would be a waste of time.
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/item/88E6E...uine-Soulstone

    +64 dmg on the first hit, and +64 dmg over time seems really low and probably would get outparsed over time from a simple AP heavy lesser. Not too mention the skills it proccs off of do NOT get spammed or you clip your bleeds... (flesh rip does get spammed naturally but still...)

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    The current Bleed skill BM has has a bleed amount of 240-320. the 64 additional bleed looks like 20%-25% more in base value. I just don't know if any of the bleed modifier skill/crystal will have effect on it. I guess I have to test it myself. Maybe a DPS lose, but I think I can afford the cost of such test.

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    Ok, here is result after replacing extra crit with a greater BM essence, I will post stats and parse side by side with prior setting. Result is 2988 DPS with greater vs 2807 without Greater. We are looking at about 200 dps increase? any thoughts?

    My AP pretty much stay the same, while crit drop to almost crit CAP level. So the increase in DPS right now is purely in greater essence. But if I am thinking if I replace the excessive Crit with AP, we are probably looking at the same result?

    Stats with Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-stats2.jpg
    Stats without Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-stats.jpg

    Parse with Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-breakdown2.jpg
    Parse without Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-breakdown.jpg
    Last edited by darric; 04-20-2012 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darric View Post
    Ok, here is result after replacing extra crit with a greater BM essence, I will post stats and parse side by side with prior setting. Result is 2988 DPS with greater vs 2807 without Greater. We are looking at about 200 dps increase? any thoughts?

    I am thinking if I replace the Crit essence with AP, we are probably looking at the same result? or less?

    Stats with Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-stats2.jpg
    Stats without Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-stats.jpg

    Parse with Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-breakdown2.jpg
    Parse without Greater
    http://www.liubros.net/files/parse/dps-breakdown.jpg
    The reason your parse is higher with the greater is because you're crit capped and only losing about 3 AP by switching it. Have an indepth look at the BiS sheet to re-evaluate your stat weights.

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