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Any 38 para, 28 rb tests yet? wondering if with dual weild and empowered and et it might parse decently.
Any 38 para, 28 rb tests yet? wondering if with dual weild and empowered and et it might parse decently.
44/20/2 because FB is monster with these AP changes.Originally Posted by LittleKiwi
with 44/20/2 or 44/22/0?
ive heard wotm does not work right now. is this true for DW finshers too (RH)? or only fb?
maybe 51/15 (champ/para) for aoe?
with a MB, BF, MB, BF rotation?
stilla t work...NEED TO TEST!
Also, about the PTS, I've noticed a lot of the wars posting 3.2k 43rb parses are geared to the teeth either by their own account or via some vendor somewhere. They all have full plate relic, kraken's, undertown, etc. I'd love to see some Live gear parses.
Last edited by intrinsc; 02-21-2012 at 02:44 AM.
stupid me...your right.
Yea i noticed this as well, the warriors on the pts are geared to the max lol. I just used my own gear the only HK piece i have is my belt, i also have the gauntllets of immolation which are hk level gloves i got from rotp. The rest of my gear is t1 raid with the rb crytsal, my parse with the 43rb/23champ was around 2400
I was getting 2.9k (with probably a lot of debuffs on the dummy) with 44Para/20CH/2RB with my own gear and two savage beastcarvers. With my Sylvan Greatblade, 38RB/28CH got me to around 2.8k by comparison. I really noticed the difference in my AP levels getting lower as I lost certain buffs though. I should see about what I can do about trinkets/essences now.
As for SB rotations, they are much more RNG then FB rotations. I find it hard to make them a DPS gain still.
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein."
He who fights with Monsters should look to it that He himself does not become a Monster. And when you gaze long into an Abyss, the Abyss also gazes into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
most ppl who are addicted enough to go to PTS once such changes are online, are hardcore enough to have full relic gear on live too.
and well, imho they should have more DPS than they have on live right now. because if they do only the same damage, everyone with worse equipment (less AP) will lose DPS.
i gues they try to balance the scaling around 1k. meaning: if oyu have 1k AP your damage in 1.7 should stay the same as in 1.8.
I realize that, but almost all the warriors except Storytime(zauric?), Shunn, and a few others had the same exact gear. This tells me there was a vendor somewhere. Some of them were warriors I know from Live whose gear was not what they had on PTS.
The numbers I posted are with the same gear I have on live.
Yea there is actually a vendor to get hk gear to parse on the gear is free.
I'm not talking about you. I was mainly speaking out loud because of people posting parses in general(on PTS). I know who the legit warriors are or not
Jopok, btw, were you having someone use IFA on the dummy for you, or doing it yourself? Thanks.
Last edited by intrinsc; 02-21-2012 at 04:33 AM.
I'm quite sure FB will get looked at again, but I'm becoming even more convinced that having oGCD finishers is more trouble than its worth. The 44 Para spec works like clockwork thanks to it, but trying to use GCD finishers with an SLI rotation (to me) seems a lot clunkier than weaving FB and FS together. Much easier to maintain SLI uptime with FB, and it seems a lot less prone to RNG.
In 51Champ/15Para, you are paying far more attention to WM procs instead of counting down to your next SLI refresh. It is actually rather refreshing and Cornered Beast is well fun now even in ST (though it will make for some nice burst AoE). The only bad thing about it is that it still lags quite a fair bit behind FB and the new RB specs in PTS.
I hate to say this but, I'm starting to think we need to take an arrow to oGCD finishers and look at trying to balance finishers in a different way, because there is still a big discrepancy on PTS between oGCD and GCD finishers.
And on my final note, I still don't see why Swift Blades in its current form is a 51 point skill as the DPS boost is... weak to say the least. Empowered Strikes is a lot better by comparison and doesn't require you to expend a finisher for boosting auto-attack damage. And Flurry still seems a little underwhelming compared to Cornered Beast. These two skills need adjusting as well.
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein."
He who fights with Monsters should look to it that He himself does not become a Monster. And when you gaze long into an Abyss, the Abyss also gazes into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Fiery Burst is pretty out of control the way it is on PTS (ticks for 1k+on crit?). To a certain extent, RB is very strong now and might require some tweaking.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/722...ebreakdown.png - 21% of damage in this mind-boggling parse
Overall I feel that fixing this one skill would actually make balance alot better. We know that the current incarnation of PTS warriors is not going to go through. Rather they adjust this now, then 16 hours before live.
It is ticking that high because people are applying Freeze Armour on the dummy. On a dummy that isn't being debuffed, I'm getting more around 800-860 damage ticks. Only when IFS is on the dummy, does it suddenly jump past 1k for me.
Even without the debuff, FB is still far ahead from other finishers thanks to AP scaling. But because there's a debuff to boost it, it will scale so much in raids from a single warrior applying it and then with all the other buffs that go with raids.
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein."
He who fights with Monsters should look to it that He himself does not become a Monster. And when you gaze long into an Abyss, the Abyss also gazes into you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
My parses were without IFA. I had a guildie throw it up for me and Kletus, and I was pushing 3.3 over 5 minutes. That was 43 23 using rb crystal, searing and fiery spam obviously.I'm not talking about you. I was mainly speaking out loud because of people posting parses in general(on PTS). I know who the legit warriors are or not
Jopok, btw, were you having someone use IFA on the dummy for you, or doing it yourself? Thanks.
I was on the dummies just now with no one else on them, and every iteration I ran were about the same dps, 3.1-3.2.
Those were 38 28 with both champ and rb crystals, 43 23 with both champ and rb crystals. I also tested rift walking with the rb crystals, and I saw similar numbers. They're all really, really close, to the point where it's hard for me to differentiate without parsing each one with enough of a sample size to delineate change.
Tested dw 44 20 2, and I feel like sb rotation with reaping would probably scale the best in a raid setting. That was around 3-3.1 for me, Dollin's blade and Bonefused with whets, oil, tab and wotw. It was fairly perfunctory for me, because I didn't mess around with dw much on the dummies.
EDIT: The IFA warrior lost about 300dps using the same spec.
Last edited by jopok; 02-21-2012 at 05:37 AM.
I forgot to mention that I tested the cold heart too using the rb specs. I was consistently getting to 5 stacks. They fell off once in awhile, but it seems like the rb specs are proccing the stacks much more frequently. I don't have a golem inductor to test but I'd imagine the same.
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