+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 132
Like Tree20Likes

Thread: Warriors bearings no longer purgeable -- What about these skills?

  1. #1
    Koe
    Koe is offline
    Ascendant Koe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    3,198

    Default Warriors bearings no longer purgeable -- What about these skills?

    These skills are no less integral to the souls that use them, and in some cases are more integral. If they want to make a simple DAMAGE BUFF that is NOT integral to the functions of the class, then they need to do it for more/all of them.

    Storm Blade - DoT tick on crits

    Way of the Mountain - 30% more damage on Follow-Up attacks and unable to be knocked back.

    Way of the Wind - Damage proc from using skills that require 2 weapons.

    Way of the River - 3% crit

    Binding of Affliction - 5% Damage

    Enraged Essence - 5% damage

    Armor of Awakening - 10% Damage, 5% crit, 10% mana regen. Take 5% more damage.

    Armor of Devotion - Spell Power and Spell Crit

    Rage of the North - All melee skills are crits for 7 seconds

    Vengeance of the Winter Storm - Damage proc on hit

    Vengeance of the Primal Noth - AoE damage proc on hit

    Vengeance of the Piercing Cold - 5% damage

    Motif of Focus - 5% crit

    Motif of Bravery - 62 Spell/Attack Power

    Electrified Muntions - Damage proc on ranged attacks

    Rending Munitions - Ignore 25% armor

    Silver-Tipped Munitions - 2% Stacking damage

    Virulent Poison - Damage proc

    Lethal Poison - Damage proc + 5% crit debuff

    Leeching Poison - Damage proc + Heal

    Debilitating Poison - Damage proc + Energy/Power/Mana drain

    Hellfire Blades - Damage proc

    Smoldering Blades - Stacking damage/DoT proc.

    Pyromanacer Armor - Cinderburst proc

    Fire Armor - 5% fire damage

    Glyphs of Power - 10% damage

    Dark/Warlock Armor - 10% damage(when specced)








    All of these buffs help the damage of said souls, and are purgeable. I missed some, and I do not know if they can be purged. This is ONLY the damage boosting procs; There are other buffs which may, or may not be, more integral to the class. Examples being the rest of the bard motifs, shield buffs from paladin, etc.


    It is UNFAIR that Warriors get a DAMAGE BUFF that is NOT integral to the FUNCTION of the soul be UNPURGEABLE. PURGING is a mechanic, and strategy to PvP, and if they want to take that away; They have opened a can of worms. It is a simple damage buff, that is it. Why are warriors special? Why can't other souls/callings have the same special treatment?



    TL;DR Purging is a viable mechanic, and unless a buff serves to give function to a class(Like Cavalier in Justicar, Lifegiving/Lifebound Veil in Chloro), it should be purgeable.
    Free music! It's legal!
    DISCLAIMER: Some songs may have been taken down.

  2. #2
    Rift Disciple
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    131

    Default

    Lurking decay

  3. #3
    RIFT Guide Writer
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    2,422

    Default

    This sure looks like a totally random and inconsistent buff.

    Maybe it as a story behind it but if there is I think it starts with "two devs walk into a bar" and at some point there is a bet involved.

  4. #4
    Ascendant Flashmemory's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    3,991

    Default

    Because when you spec into champ you only get one buff. Other classes can stack other buffs to protect their main buffs. You purge this buff through spamming eradicate and the whole soul becomes a lot less viable. Just a thought.
    Last edited by Flashmemory; 01-05-2012 at 07:31 PM.

  5. #5
    Koe
    Koe is offline
    Ascendant Koe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    3,198

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Flashmemory View Post
    Because when you spec into champ you only get one buff. Other classes can stack other buffs to protect their main buffs. You purge this buff through spamming eradicate and the whole soul becomes a lot less viable. Just a thought.
    Just a thought, spamming eradicate makes a lot of souls less viable.
    Free music! It's legal!
    DISCLAIMER: Some songs may have been taken down.

  6. #6
    Ascendant Ianto Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,018

    Default

    It really makes no sense.

  7. #7
    Ascendant Robes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    2,068

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    Just a thought, spamming eradicate makes a lot of souls less viable.
    Decay, stalker/guardian phase, lifegiving/bound veil.
    Teddro - Warrior - Seastone

    Synna - Rogue - Vigil

    Synna Stonecove/Invalid Target for all those darkfall people

  8. #8
    Koe
    Koe is offline
    Ascendant Koe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    3,198

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Robes View Post
    Decay, stalker/guardian phase, lifegiving/bound veil.
    Decay is necessary for the function of the class, Guardian PHase is necessary for the function of the soul, and lifegiving/lifebound veil are necessary for the function of the soul.

    Stalker Phase should be purgeable.
    Free music! It's legal!
    DISCLAIMER: Some songs may have been taken down.

  9. #9
    Rift Master Zeypher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    633

    Default

    Special treatment, don't people realise that's what warriors get?

  10. #10
    Champion of Telara Kajib's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    1,220

    Default

    Lmao Atrius just owned a MM? 4k overkill

  11. #11
    Ascendant Robes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    2,068

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Koe View Post
    Decay is necessary for the function of the class, Guardian PHase is necessary for the function of the soul, and lifegiving/lifebound veil are necessary for the function of the soul.

    Stalker Phase should be purgeable.
    And what makes you think destroyers bearing is not necessary for champion? Full 51 points just to get it, and its the ONLY buff you get from it. I actually find it funny though, the rogue starts complaining when their spamable purge isn't able to make a soul completely useless.

    However, the other two that were change with it, could have been left alone, the whole point that destroyers bearing needed changed was that the whole soul was dependent on it.
    Teddro - Warrior - Seastone

    Synna - Rogue - Vigil

    Synna Stonecove/Invalid Target for all those darkfall people

  12. #12
    Ascendant Ianto Jones's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    6,018

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Robes View Post
    And what makes you think destroyers bearing is not necessary for champion? Full 51 points just to get it, and its the ONLY buff you get from it. I actually find it funny though, the rogue starts complaining when their spamable purge isn't able to make a soul completely useless.

    However, the other two that were change with it, could have been left alone, the whole point that destroyers bearing needed changed was that the whole soul was dependent on it.
    So I guess Silver Tip Munitions and Ground of Strength shouldn't be purgeable, either?

    And for that matter, Mass Betrayal shouldn't be cleanseable!
    Last edited by Ianto Jones; 01-05-2012 at 08:20 PM.

  13. #13
    Koe
    Koe is offline
    Ascendant Koe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    3,198

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ianto Jones View Post
    So I guess Silver Tip Munitions and Ground of Strength shouldn't be purgeable, either?

    And for that matter, Mass Betrayal shouldn't be cleanseable!
    Downpour shouldn't be interruptable, and should ignore healing debuffs. Same with Natural Healing and Void Life.
    Free music! It's legal!
    DISCLAIMER: Some songs may have been taken down.

  14. #14
    Ascendant Robes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    2,068

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ianto Jones View Post
    So I guess Silver Tip Munitions and Ground of Strength shouldn't be purgeable, either?

    And for that matter, Mass Betrayal shouldn't be cleanseable!
    Silver Tip Munitions shouldn't be, no. Ground of Strength is just 44 points isn't it?

    I do hope you two know the difference between a buff and an ability though.
    Teddro - Warrior - Seastone

    Synna - Rogue - Vigil

    Synna Stonecove/Invalid Target for all those darkfall people

  15. #15
    Ascendant
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,954

    Default

    I hear this makes warriors OP.





    Nerf.
    Maza the Mage <Damaged PvPness>
    Not playing a warrior anymore because it's boring.
    11/11 HK | 4/4 ROTP | 0/8 ID

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 ... LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts