paragon soul after 1.7 question

[Ninshu]

I've been wondering if after 1.7 going 38+ points deep into the paragon soul will be viable with DW like it should be or are warriors stuck using 2h with this soul setup. Seems evident that soul restructuring is due.

Not a qq thread just a question and discussion.

[Ferboten]

We have no idea.

[Ninshu]

Hopefully atrius is lurking the boards atm. I really would like to see if warriors can get an idea of were our class is going.

[Pink Freud]

If they made all Paragon skills do X%(MH+OH) it would be a much better system. Dual-wielding becomes viable (and actually possible to be exactly equal to using a 2H depending on the percentage used).

[Highwayjack]

Hopefully atrius is lurking the boards atm. I really would like to see if warriors can get an idea of were our class is going.

He probably is lurking, or has someone else lurking. It is almost Christmas/new years and even people in the military are starting to take leave right now so uhh it wouldn't be surprising if the team that has been pumping out free content and has literally made a new game in the past few months are taking some time to be with their loved ones.

That said, a token post of "we are watching! You have been heard and we are working on it!" would go a long way.

[Sebb]

I've heard that the "requires both weapons" abilities take 60% of each weapon. The weird thing is that the value SHOULD be 66% if you look at the dps break down compared to 2h dps.

[Zughalala]

I've heard that the "requires both weapons" abilities take 60% of each weapon. The weird thing is that the value SHOULD be 66% if you look at the dps break down compared to 2h dps.

is there even a way to find this out for sure?

[Sebb]

I'm sure it's easy to test. I don't know the proper coefficients though.

With no buffs on and no SLI:

DS crit with a 44.7 +1.6 PA dps axe and a 44.5 dps dagger OH: 985
DS crit with a 44.7 +1.6 PA dps axe and a 33.6 dps dagger OH: 926

GL

[Pink Freud]

I'm sure it's easy to test. I don't know the proper coefficients though.

With no buffs on and no SLI:

DS crit with a 44.7 +1.6 PA dps axe and a 44.5 dps dagger OH: 985
DS crit with a 44.7 +1.6 PA dps axe and a 33.6 dps dagger OH: 926

GL

If both weapons are being taken into account there is no reason why a 2H RW should hit for more than DW RH beyond Trion's incompetence then. All it would take to equalize the damage would be to change the coefficient.

[Ferboten]

If both weapons are being taken into account there is no reason why a 2H RW should hit for more than DW RH beyond Trion's incompetence then. All it would take to equalize the damage would be to change the coefficient.

He was testing Dual Strike. Currently abilities that do not require 2 weapons will only take MH dps into consideration, and as far as I know is working as intended. Whether or not this will change in the future is entirely up to Trion.

[Sebb]

He was testing Dual Strike. Currently abilities that do not require 2 weapons will only take MH dps into consideration, and as far as I know is working as intended. Whether or not this will change in the future is entirely up to Trion.

Working as intended? I'm not sure. They added that feature in during 1.3 for DS/POTR/POTH/RH/PrS. They never looked at any other abilities though. Is it by design that DW RB is inherently 75% behind 2h RB? Or just by by error?

What they should do is make all warrior abilities use 60% of each weapon, then put a talent in the paragon tree to boost it to 66%.

[SeekingtheMCP]

I've been wondering if after 1.7 going 38+ points deep into the paragon soul will be viable with DW like it should be or are warriors stuck using 2h with this soul setup. Seems evident that soul restructuring is due.

Not a qq thread just a question and discussion.

Be careful.. your question has the assumption that we are getting fixed. Atrius works in two speeds, slow and stop. Better to show no faith, then when we get nerfed, it does not hurt as much.

[ahchew]

Duel wield = more ranged atks I don't see why the damage should be = to 2nd

[Bloodbourne]

Duel wield = more ranged atks I don't see why the damage should be = to 2nd

Because weapon swapping is so hard? Thats a bit silly to assume. They SHOULD be equal near enough. All things considered. If you have ZERO pts in any souls... and you have same tier weapons for DW/2h... then power strike with a 2h and dual strike with 2 weapons SHOULD do Identical damage... and from there it will be your pt distribution that changes the dmg output of either.

[Pines]

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