Yeah that's true Cyclone Strike did have its cost increased and CD reduced, but it does the exact same thing as Tempest so why the difference in power?Originally Posted by Undrsiege
Trolling was referring to you saying Windspear was ogcd (which people use to say something is off-GCD). <- nvm with this, read "Stoneshield" and thought you meant Stonespear ;p. I don't know where you got Stoneshield from my post before, though.
Aaaand like I said before.
Last edited by Value; 11-11-2011 at 05:03 PM.
I said stonespear is ogcd you just didn't read. Don't worry I won't blame you for not taking the time to read.
Like I said if it don't build AP not reduced.
No idea on cyclone strike.
Last edited by Undrsiege; 11-11-2011 at 05:07 PM.
Stonespear is on GCD as well, though.
There is no cool down difference between Cyclone Strike and Tempest. Both are acquired at 26 points into the trees as well.
Fork was reduced to 17 power which isn't an AP granting ability. The ability you use after it is, though. Death's Touch is 20 power yet not reduced as well as all the other follow-ups. Again, if these are the changes they wanted then they need to re-word their patch note statement.
Last edited by Value; 11-11-2011 at 05:13 PM.
I think the fork change was the only mistake I saw. Tempest does slightly more damage maybe the reason.. VK the new Mini Cabalist.
Not only did they miss abilities, but 16 is the balanced sweet spot, not 17. We are still suckin on tablets at 17. Need to adjust some skills they missed, and make the energy reduction 1 more and make most skills cost 16.
Zerosix - Warrior<DIVINE FURY>
Atrius,
Disregard..............
Last edited by Undrsiege; 11-11-2011 at 05:48 PM.
So you think we should have to use expensive consumables that don't last through death to achieve *almost* equal DPS as a ranged class from 35m? And that's if the boss is standing still and we don't have to dodge crap?
I don't think so. I know you want your LOLROGUE to stay ahead of everyone else, even if it means acting like a warrior and trolling our forum, but seriously? Nobody is gonna buy that.
Last edited by id0l; 11-11-2011 at 05:48 PM.
Sorry Bro, I don't have a rogue... And I do think the tablets should last through death and Melee do more damage than ranged.
Last edited by Undrsiege; 11-11-2011 at 05:50 PM.
I don't think I should have to rely on tablets period.
And we shouldn't have to. No other class needs consumbales to compete with a class, without them.
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You still haven't made a case as to why warriors should be forced into using tablets (or anything else that requires farming/plat) to remain competitive (with a ranged class/spec no less) while other classes do not. If anything, a ranged class/spec should be required to use a tablet to remain competitive (read: similiar dps) with melee...not the other way around.
Last edited by id0l; 11-11-2011 at 06:13 PM.
I think the tablets should be craftable, have a use time of 60 minutes and last thru death. And don't you think clerics and mages don't have to spend just as much plat on consumables as a warrior. Giving Controlled fire to rogues was a flat out mistake. I guess if you calculate it right now 1 Brightsurge = 1 powersurge and 4 tablets.
Sure there is issues in power but they did the right thing by making changes slowly to see how things work out.
Quick Fixes:
Make Tablets craftable.
Extend the duration to 60 mins.
Last thru death.
Then Brightsurge will be equal to powersure and elder tablet, and Raid consumable cost will be closer in line.
You are power starved because you try and force as much DPS out as possible while this is always expected if a pure healer tries to non stop AOE heal they will oom really quick.
And yes to remain competitive a Cleric and Mage have to use a Brightsurge. So warriors are not alone.
I hope this answers your question
Last edited by Undrsiege; 11-11-2011 at 06:55 PM.
Sounds like trion should make every calling require a tablet and balance around that too, sounds great......../sarcasm
Mages do not have to use tablets, and they are beating us in single target on the pts... so why should warriors have to use em again?
Atrius, we need energy regen boosted by 2 a second and the current pts cost recuction, or we need the cost reduction to make builders 15-16... I would rather have more regen.
Zerosix - Warrior<DIVINE FURY>
Why do we have to keep putting up with these jokers and anony-trolls? This is an official Trion Warrior post, get off of it if you're here to bait people.
Powersurge = Brightsurge
Warriors have an additional consumable everyone else does not, tablets. There is no justification for this. Remove this requirement by fixing our power issues: Fix Grim Satisfaction to not overwrite. Fix Serenity to crit on DW. Or up base regen.
Or make ALL other classes have to use tablets too. Let's see how much they like that.
Last edited by Hodor; 11-12-2011 at 04:24 AM.
Price wise not even close...
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