Kruunch's Dual Wield Raid Build

[Kruunch]

This is the standard 38/22/6 DW build and is not "my" build per se as the originator and the developer of this build was Kutsmuffin (Exiled) and all the credit goes to him and Rizaz (Exiled) and Hokonso (Exiled) for all their comparative testing both on dummies and in actual raids. Additional props to Sharogy (and others) for finding the 1/2 Surging Energy bug.

I'm posting this, as requested, to give macros and rotations. Everything here was a product of the great 1.3 DPS Theorycrafting discussion thread found here: http://forums.riftgame.com/rift-gene...ting-step.html , my own personal testing and my experiences in raids.

NOTE: This is currently updated for 1.5

Build: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...0AzcM.EzzzV0bb

Pros: One of the highest single target DPS builds (currently there are 2 2H builds that will parse within 100 DPS higher), simple rotation, mobility, ranged DPS

Cons: Substandard AOE DPS

Macros:

Main Spam

#show Path of the Raptor
cast Path of the Raptor
cast Dual Strike
cast Frenzied Strike
cast Inescapable Fury
cast Turn the Blade
cast Path of the Wind
cast Path of the Hurricane
cast Flamespear


AOE

#show Path of the Hurricane
cast Path of the Hurricane
cast Mighty Blow
cast Frenzied Strike
cast Inescapable Fury
cast Turn the Blade

Finisher
#show Strike Like Iron
cast Strike Like Iron
cast Fiery Burst

Charge

#show Bull Rush
cast Bull Rush
cast Thread the Trees

Rotation

1) Spam macro until 3 AP

2) Finisher macro (Strike Like Iron)

3) Spam macro until 3 AP

4) Finisher macro (Fiery Burst)

5) Spam macro until 3 AP

6) Finisher macro (Fiery Burst (NOTE: only when previous FB is at 0 timer))

7) Spam macro until 3 AP

8) Finisher macro (Strike Like Iron (NOTE: Wait until previous Strike Like Iron fades entirely ... you will most likely be hitting your Spam macro with 3 AP up until it fades depending on Weapon Master procs)).

NOTE: General rule of thumb is *always* keep Strike Like Iron up as a priority. If you have a Fiery Burst up wait until it's counter is at 0 before applying another (assuming SLI still has time). Only do two (2) Fiery Bursts per rotation. With Weapon Master procs it is possible to mix in 3 but more times then not, SLI will fall off as a result.

AOE: Same rotation, but substitute the Spam macro for the AOE macro.

Notes

Buffs: Slayer's Bearing, Way of the Wind, Storm Blade (Focus of Strength is overwritten in a raid setting)

Consumables: Exquisite Whetstone (2), Mighty Powesurge Vial (Heroic is marginally better but the cost difference is ridiculous), Cupcake (IPP faction food), Gloamwood Silk Poison (Defiant only ... meh), Poisonous Coating (because who doesn't want an extra 4 DPS?! lol), Critical Strikes Pots

Some people have had success in separating out their off GCD abilities (interrupts, Frenzied Strike, etc ...) into their own macro and manually hitting them so as to maximize the number of Follow Up attacks (Path of the Ratpor / Hurriane). I've not had success doing this (always about break even or a DPS loss for me) but you could conceivably eek out a few more DPS with this method.

Currently Surging Energy (RB) is bugged and 1 point in it returns a higher yield then 2 points.

With the current raid (HK) requiring 300 hit (320 optimal) I have 1 point in Cruel Efficiency. You can move points to it from Blitz and Grim Satisfaction if you need more +hit, or take the point out of it and move it to Grim Satisfaction if you don't need the extra hit (this will help on possible energy issues while AOEing).

I've found having 2 gap closers (Bull Rush/Blitz and Thread the Trees) to be immensely helpful in the current raid scenarios (especially in HK). If that's not your experience, you can take the point out of Blitz and apply it to Lingering Wounds or Ruthless Pursuit (both have situational use in raids). If you are not using Cruel Efficiency and Blitz I advise 1/3 Grim Satisfaction and 2/2 Lingering Wounds.

Plutonis Parse: 2050 (T3 gear, Fang of the Life Lord and Whisperwood Edge).

I don't claim this to be the most efficient version of this build or the best raid build out there, just what I'm using and the results that I've gotten with it. I am continuing to use this in 1.5 although if I grab a 2H upgrade I might swap this for the 2H Para build (now that the devs confirmed that it's here to stay (ftm)). As with all my builds, I invite comments and tips to improve on anything I'm doing here.

Enjoy!

[Serashen]

I think calling the AOE substandard sells it short - I have had good results, and have out AOEd better geared warriors.

[Kruunch]

I think calling the AOE substandard sells it short - I have had good results, and have out AOEd better geared warriors.

"Substandard" in comparison to the current 2H BM spec. And often I've found that I do more DPS single target then AOEing (as implausible as that sounds) in this build.

And you won't come close to matching a Rogue/Mage/Cleric for AOE dps.

Otherwise its AOE potential is fine

[Serashen]

"Substandard" in comparison to the current 2H BM spec. And often I've found that I do more DPS single target then AOEing (as implausible as that sounds) in this build.

And you won't come close to matching a Rogue/Mage/Cleric for AOE dps.

Otherwise its AOE potential is fine

Our guys must be doing something wrong then, because me, a bm war and a rogue are the only ones over 2k DPS on matron.

[Kruunch]

Our guys must be doing something wrong then, because me, a bm war and a rogue are the only ones over 2k DPS on matron.

Zilas is a good AOE fight to judge by if you're on adds duty (or Alsbeth in RoS) ... our Rogues/Mages pull 3k+, our BM Warrior around 2700 while I'll pull about 1.9.

AOE isn't this builds' strong suit. It's ok ... but single target is where it shines (just second to equally geared Sabdancer Rogues).

[Soulsurfing]

pretty sure the para/bm variant is actually top ST dps - with raid buff scaling

[Serashen]

pretty sure the para/bm variant is actually top ST dps - with raid buff scaling

Prove it..

[Kruunch]

pretty sure the para/bm variant is actually top ST dps - with raid buff scaling

Haven't seen it in action yet but I'll talk with our current BM Warrior tonight about it.

Is it a DW or 2H build?

[Ahov]

Completely based on dummy parses, I've found the 38 paragon/26 champ/2RB build for 2h the best.

Put emphasis on landing rising waterfall every time, and you won't become energy starved from spamming off-gcds with lack of surging energy.

With the 38/22/6 variant, you actually gain benefits from spamming everything in one macro because you will not become power starved. I don't get a chance to test these in raids because I tank, but hopefully our dps will try it out on Matron.

[Ahov]

I think calling the AOE substandard sells it short - I have had good results, and have out AOEd better geared warriors.

It is definitely less AoE than a 2h build. For one thing, mighty blow bases its damage from the weapon in the mainhand, as opposed to both weapons. Therefore, it will be weaker in a DW build.

The raid-viable 2h specs will perform much better in AoE.

[Chronoz]

Hi Krunch,

thanks for summing it up again. I'm sure a lot of fresh warriors appreciate it. The original Kutsu thread is a great read...but this is faster.

It would be helpfull to add the buffs (bearings, ways) into the OP.

Maybe also a word about weaponstones and consumables.

Greez

[Kruunch]

Hi Krunch,

thanks for summing it up again. I'm sure a lot of fresh warriors appreciate it. The original Kutsu thread is a great read...but this is faster.

It would be helpfull to add the buffs (bearings, ways) into the OP.

Maybe also a word about weaponstones and consumables.

Greez

Added both buffs and consumables.

[divath]

Imo a warrior should be like a walking armory. Whatever weapons he can use he should have. Just make an ae macro to equip a 2h and spam mb and sli/fb then swap back for single target. Thats how your most effective I think. Warriors arent a specialization or limited class like the others. We are very versatile and should make good use of it.

[Kruunch]

Completely based on dummy parses, I've found the 38 paragon/26 champ/2RB build for 2h the best.

Put emphasis on landing rising waterfall every time, and you won't become energy starved from spamming off-gcds with lack of surging energy.

With the 38/22/6 variant, you actually gain benefits from spamming everything in one macro because you will not become power starved. I don't get a chance to test these in raids because I tank, but hopefully our dps will try it out on Matron.

Yeah I'd need to see some regular raid parses from a variety of people beating my parse before I subscribe to that build. Not doubting Valthirus, but in my experience those kind of rotations go out the window (and actually hurt DPS for most people) in an actual raid environment.

I'm not sure if even Rizaz still separates his oGCDs and he's the first person that I know of who came up with the 3 RW rotation back in the old Champ/BM days. I remember trying it a number of times and having a *really* hard time doing it on the dummy and absolutely impossible (for me) in a raid setting.

[Kruunch]

Imo a warrior should be like a walking armory. Whatever weapons he can use he should have. Just make an ae macro to equip a 2h and spam mb and sli/fb then swap back for single target. Thats how your most effective I think. Warriors arent a specialization or limited class like the others. We are very versatile and should make good use of it.

You lose Path of the Hurricane then and I don't think a 2H spamming Mighty Blow is going to pick up your AOE DPS by much.

If you're trying to split weapon swap macros between PotH and MB ... all I can say is you're one lag burp away from trying to go back to single target with the wrong weapon (yuck).

But give it a shot ... if it improves your performance then I'm all about it.

Having said that, in the era of 1.4 I wouldn't be surprised to see pro Warrior DPS toting 2 or even 3 different raid DPS builds for specific fights.