1.3 Changes are simply desatrous for 2 hander PvP

[Ashraa]

Acording to the current 1.3 pacht notes the Warrior Dev team keep the trend of diminishing cinergy among souls.

The changes to SLI, Path of the Wind and Deadly Strikes forces 2 handers warrior to go too deep in Champion for subpar PVE and PVP DPS.

Specialy in PvP these changes will deeply compromise melee warrios.
Right now the champ three has 0 defensive abilities, 1 if u take Battle Field Intimidation in consideration.
In current 1.2 every 2 hander warrior is forced to get defensive abilities in diferent souls like paragon or VK.
Buy removing Champ/paragon synergy in the game you are forcing 2 Handed warriors to play without any defensive ability.


Have in mind other callings melee DPS souls will have better Defense and better DPS parses then any Champ build.

Night Blade:
Twilight Sheter
Twilight Transcendance
Blackout

Assasin:
Stealth
Slip Way
Poison Gas

Shaman:
Thich Skined (1% tp 5% dmg redux)
Favore of The Vanir (increse healing taken by 5to 10 %)
Glacial Shield
Heart of the Frozen Sea
Heart of the Fire Mountain
Heart of the Twhilight Forest

Any of these souls alredy outparse a non PET 2 hander build.
With the current changes they will out dps out burst and out survive an champion based build in any pvp situation.

The only prupose a Warrior will have is Ligering Wounds, but if we look into Night Blades,.
The soul have an spamable ranged attack (which u took from warriors and now Path of the Wind).
A Ranged Finisher. Three realy strong defensive cooldowns. Better DPS than Champion and and the Heal Debuf.


What will be the point playing 2 hander (just becouse we like big stcks??!)

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I must say that the current "BUFF" to Deadly Strikes is just plain DUMNB.

"Deadly Strikes: Now increases the damage of attack point builders by an additional amount for each point spent in Champion over 30."

A six point abilitie three abilitie that only starts to take effect only after 30 points in to the soul???? REALY???!!!!!

I think it was just me but I tought the abilities should be somewhat relevant at the point that we take then, not like 24 LEVELS AFTER IT.!!!!

The Dealy Strike + Paragon changes, froces 2hander Warriors into specs that will be subpar both in DPS and in Defense.


This need to change.

[MrFunsocks]

You talked about DPS in PvP like it means something. lulz.

[Davol]

http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...ponse-REQUIRED
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This

[Ashraa]

You talked about DPS in PvP like it means something. lulz.

You talked like a true troll.

[Ashraa]

http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...ponse-REQUIRED
^^^^^
This

I think we need as much noise as we can possibley make.
But I will post that on the same thread.

[Majorin]

Acording to the current 1.3 pacht notes the Warrior Dev team keep the trend of diminishing cinergy among souls.

The changes to SLI, Path of the Wind and Deadly Strikes forces 2 handers warrior to go too deep in Champion for subpar PVE and PVP DPS.

Specialy in PvP these changes will deeply compromise melee warrios.
Right now the champ three has 0 defensive abilities, 1 if u take Battle Field Intimidation in consideration.
In current 1.2 every 2 hander warrior is forced to get defensive abilities in diferent souls like paragon or VK.
Buy removing Champ/paragon synergy in the game you are forcing 2 Handed warriors to play without any defensive ability.


Have in mind other callings melee DPS souls will have better Defense and better DPS parses then any Champ build.

Night Blade:
Twilight Sheter
Twilight Transcendance
Blackout

Assasin:
Stealth
Slip Way
Poison Gas

Shaman:
Thich Skined (1% tp 5% dmg redux)
Favore of The Vanir (increse healing taken by 5to 10 %)
Glacial Shield
Heart of the Frozen Sea
Heart of the Fire Mountain
Heart of the Twhilight Forest

Any of these souls alredy outparse a non PET 2 hander build.
With the current changes they will out dps out burst and out survive an champion based build in any pvp situation.

The only prupose a Warrior will have is Ligering Wounds, but if we look into Night Blades,.
The soul have an spamable ranged attack (which u took from warriors and now Path of the Wind).
A Ranged Finisher. Three realy strong defensive cooldowns. Better DPS than Champion and and the Heal Debuf.


What will be the point playing 2 hander (just becouse we like big stcks??!)

.....

I must say that the current "BUFF" to Deadly Strikes is just plain DUMNB.

"Deadly Strikes: Now increases the damage of attack point builders by an additional amount for each point spent in Champion over 30."

A six point abilitie three abilitie that only starts to take effect only after 30 points in to the soul???? REALY???!!!!!

I think it was just me but I tought the abilities should be somewhat relevant at the point that we take then, not like 24 LEVELS AFTER IT.!!!!

The Dealy Strike + Paragon changes, froces 2hander Warriors into specs that will be subpar both in DPS and in Defense.


This need to change.

You are right. Try and duel a decent geared cleric and you will see first hand how horrible balance is in this game. I think alot of the problem stems from what the players believe should be impemented vs. the developers. Warriors have two roles in this game... melee dps and tank. This is versus other classes with many more options. If the devs do not make warrior melee dps tops in the game and give warriors exellent tanking abiltiy there is no point to the class. The players will not accept it.

The issue is even more absurd because warriors currently have high melee dps. Nerfing it is absurd.

[Milen]

I think we need as much noise as we can possibley make.
But I will post that on the same thread.

Yeah, obviously we aren't making enough noise. I mean, in the thread about 1.3 warrior changes there are only 29-30 pages of flame and frustration and ZERO dev responses. While they almost immediately locked another thread on the same issues.

Maybe only the account cancellation survey is noisy enough. Btw, did you know that you get to fill in a survey when you cancel your sub? This is a great option, I really like it. You can always give Trion some constructive and helpful feedback with it.

[Nam19771]

. Btw, did you know that you get to fill in a survey when you cancel your sub? This is a great option, I really like it. You can always give Trion some constructive and helpful feedback with it.

Yeah well in mine I said I quit cos of the warrior nerfs, was 1 month ago and they obviously don't want me back.
Funny I can still post though.

[Yraen]

I must say that the current "BUFF" to Deadly Strikes is just plain DUMNB.

"Deadly Strikes: Now increases the damage of attack point builders by an additional amount for each point spent in Champion over 30."

A six point abilitie three abilitie that only starts to take effect only after 30 points in to the soul???? REALY???!!!!!

I think it was just me but I tought the abilities should be somewhat relevant at the point that we take then, not like 24 LEVELS AFTER IT.!!!!

The Dealy Strike + Paragon changes, froces 2hander Warriors into specs that will be subpar both in DPS and in Defense.


This need to change.

This last part is completely incorrect. Deadly Strikes provides the same effect that it does now. The >30 point part is in ADDITION to the current ability.

Please do more than just read the patch notes before you complain about things.

[Foehammer25]

Yeah, obviously we aren't making enough noise. I mean, in the thread about 1.3 warrior changes there are only 29-30 pages of flame and frustration and ZERO dev responses. While they almost immediately locked another thread on the same issues.

Maybe only the account cancellation survey is noisy enough. Btw, did you know that you get to fill in a survey when you cancel your sub? This is a great option, I really like it. You can always give Trion some constructive and helpful feedback with it.

We should all cancel TODAY as a statement, and then let our subs run out if warriors are nerfed in 1.3

[Ashraa]

This last part is completely incorrect. Deadly Strikes provides the same effect that it does now. The >30 point part is in ADDITION to the current ability.

Please do more than just read the patch notes before you complain about things.

My point still 100% valid, we are still going to loose dps and survavibility.

[Auden]

My point still 100% valid, we are still going to loose dps and survavibility.

We have next to no defensive abilities as is.

Our burst is great against zero valor. Our crutch is LW and SLI.


I am praying to god the vindicator tree gets gutted and made attractive to 2h warriors. But this doesnt make up for the fact that 2h in pve is **** after 1.3.

[DaseinNJ]

We still have some options in pvp. The biggest nerf that no1 is talking about is making furious rage not do weapon damage. I think they want us to be a sustained dps class in pvp not a burst one. Sucks though.

[DaseinNJ]

We have next to no defensive abilities as is.

Our burst is great against zero valor. Our crutch is LW and SLI.


I am praying to god the vindicator tree gets gutted and made attractive to 2h warriors. But this doesnt make up for the fact that 2h in pve is **** after 1.3.

I will be specing into aura of vengeful wrath I think even though the first 10 points are a waste.

[Shinigam1]

Yeah, obviously we aren't making enough noise. I mean, in the thread about 1.3 warrior changes there are only 29-30 pages of flame and frustration and ZERO dev responses. While they almost immediately locked another thread on the same issues.

Maybe only the account cancellation survey is noisy enough. Btw, did you know that you get to fill in a survey when you cancel your sub? This is a great option, I really like it. You can always give Trion some constructive and helpful feedback with it.a

Do your words taste good? You posted about 5 pages too early and missed the dev response saying they are compensating for sli.