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    Default Saboteur, Bleed, and Cleansing Abilities

    Does anyone know if cleansing abilities remove bleed? If they do, what's going to stop people from grabbing quickshot(+Improved Quickshot) or another bleed ability and applying it before stacking charges as a Saboteur? Does cleanse randomly remove the first debuff or does it do it randomly? Seems like using a 100% bleed ability before stacking charges would be a decent counter to cleansing(almost all of them are on 10s cooldowns?) unless theres multiple people spamming cleanse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airflow View Post
    Does anyone know if cleansing abilities remove bleed? If they do, what's going to stop people from grabbing quickshot(+Improved Quickshot) or another bleed ability and applying it before stacking charges as a Saboteur? Does cleanse randomly remove the first debuff or does it do it randomly? Seems like using a 100% bleed ability before stacking charges would be a decent counter to cleansing(almost all of them are on 10s cooldowns?) unless theres multiple people spamming cleanse.
    All of the cleanses are spammable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blahdot3h View Post
    All of the cleanses are spammable.

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    Cleansing Waters requires 4% mana . Curative Waters requires 4% mana and has a 45s cooldown. Cauterize requires 4% mana. Cleansing Prayer requires 4% mana...

    Meh... Do you really think a cleric is going to be spamming 4% mana required abilities to counter a saboteur in PVP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airflow View Post
    Cleansing Waters requires 4% mana . Curative Waters requires 4% mana and has a 45s cooldown. Cauterize requires 4% mana. Cleansing Prayer requires 4% mana...

    Meh... Do you really think a cleric is going to be spamming 4% mana required abilities to counter a saboteur in PVP?
    Yes, definitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybaster View Post
    Yes, definitely.
    A cleric spamming cleanse, damage ability, cleanse, damaging ability repeat will destroy a sabo. Same goes with a chloro. Looks like it's back to playing Marks.

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    Yep. The class is dead. We were due for a nerf of some kind, but this is absurd.

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    I'm not talking about a 1vs1 scenario, balancing this game for 1vs1 will never work. In a team based environment you probably wont see clerics spamming 4% abilities just to counter a saboteur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airflow View Post
    I'm not talking about a 1vs1 scenario, balancing this game for 1vs1 will never work. In a team based environment you probably wont see clerics spamming 4% abilities just to counter a saboteur...
    No instead you'll just see them spam aoe cleanse, and the 4% mana cleanse 3 times over 6 seconds spell. That's fine it only reduces sabo damage by about 65% over 10 seconds.

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    Is that so? The cleric has a choice between their team-mate dying suddenly and explosively, or popping off cleanses until the sabo can be peeled/disabled. Hmmmn.

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    Where are these new patch notes...The ones I see don't say anything about dispelling charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybaster View Post
    Is that so? The cleric has a choice between their team-mate dying suddenly and explosively, or popping off cleanses until the sabo can be peeled/disabled. Hmmmn.
    They also have the choice of placing a ward(insta cast) and beginning a large 2s heal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airflow View Post
    They also have the choice of placing a ward(insta cast) and beginning a large 2s heal.
    Stop pretending that clerics aren't just healbots, airflow! This is the rogue forum. Everyone here knows that clerics can't buff/ward/cleanse/hit people with a 40% reduce damage shield! They can only heal! And complain in the rogue and warrior forums.
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    The patch notes being referred to are from alpha, which is still under NDA. Too bad it get's spread like the plague through the forums by ******s that have no respect for Trion. I hope that anyone that links them or posts them gets banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtycamel View Post
    The patch notes being referred to are from alpha, which is still under NDA. Too bad it get's spread like the plague through the forums by ******s that have no respect for Trion. I hope that anyone that links them or posts them gets banned.
    Why should posting "speculated" notes get someone banned from the forums? So information that people will find out in 3 days gets out earlier so people can talk about it, why is that a bad thing?

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    people posting them are probably not under nda. Leaked notes are leaked notes, blame the leaker, not people who read em.

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