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    Default New PTS Balance Pass for Rogue

    Rogue
    Marksman
    Legendary Free Recoil reduces the cast time of Deadeye shot by 1.5s. Empowered Shot ramps up faster. Now has a stack limit.
    Legendary Rapid Fire Shot - Damage increased dramatically (roughly 65%).

    Shadeborn
    Legendary Void Touch now increases the Void Touch and Night Cloaked Blades damage the target takes by 15%.
    Tooltip for Legendary Strengthened bonds corrected to say penalties reduced to 15%.

    Assassin
    Legendary Master of Poisons now also increases Assassin Damage over time effects by 60%.

    Ranger
    Legendary Splinter Shot damage increased.
    Double Shot proc chance increased to 30/60% and restores 2 energy on hit.
    Legendary Ace Shot bonus damage increased from 150% to 300%.
    Legendary Animalism passive bonus increased from 65% to 80%.



    It looks like proper play Marksman might take back some glory from the 1 button sabman.

    Shadeborn is slightly nerfed. (I am pretty sure even with this nerf the EZ mode version will still be better than the proper play shadeborn)

    Assassin buff isn't enough unless the 60% dot buff is multiplicative.

    Ranger is buffed no comment since I don't really play it now.

    Any comment welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FateStayNight View Post

    It looks like proper play Marksman might take back some glory from the 1 button sabman.
    Properly played MM still does a lot more dps than 1button sabman..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltie View Post
    Properly played MM still does a lot more dps than 1button sabman..
    Not necessary for the average/bad rogue players.
    Most rogues in full expert gear can barely sustain 250k in expert in MM.
    When they swap to 1 button spam they are pretty much guaranteed 300k
    There's a reason these 1 button specs are in demand in case you haven't realize it yet.

    Oh and you missed the part where 1 button focused finisher spam shadeborn straight up beating properly played shadeborn... again in case you didn't know it yet.
    Last edited by FateStayNight; 12-16-2016 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FateStayNight View Post
    Not necessary for the average/bad rogue players.
    Most rogues in full expert gear can barely sustain 250k in expert in MM.
    There's a reason these 1 button specs are in demand in case you haven't realize it yet.

    Oh and you missed the part where 1 button focused finisher spam shadeborn straight up beating properly played shadeborn... again in case you didn't know it yet.
    But I didnt mention Shadeborn.

    You said properly played MM. This isnt the case. Properly played MM will always outdps sabman.

    It looks like proper play Marksman might take back some glory from the 1 button sabman.
    Incase you forgot what you typed.
    Last edited by Maltie; 12-16-2016 at 05:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltie View Post
    But I didnt mention Shadeborn.

    You said properly played MM. This isnt the case. Properly played MM will always outdps sabman.



    Incase you forgot what you typed.
    "It looks like proper play Marksman might take back some glory from the 1 button sabman"

    Glory as in popularity. I never mentioned it outdps proper MM.

    In case you couldn't read English. XDDD
    Last edited by FateStayNight; 12-16-2016 at 05:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FateStayNight View Post
    Glory as in popularity. I never mentioned it out dpsed proper MM.

    In case you couldn't read English.
    Popularity? I've seen no-one in my SPE groups playing sabman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltie View Post
    Popularity? I've seen no-one in my SPE groups playing sabman.
    That's your luck not others.
    I've seen 61 Assassin, 61 Druid, NBRS, Sabman, Battlebard in expert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FateStayNight View Post
    That's your luck not others.
    I've seen 61 Assassin, 61 Druid, NBRS, Sabman, Battlebard in expert.
    Just for the records: 61 Druid properly manage is one of the top cleric specs right now (380/400k) paired with Shaman and higher than Inquisitor (single target of course).
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    Change is good,

    just parsed MM and SB on PTS,

    Marksman seems to be top DPS spec now, SB's is nerfed by like 50-60k.

    MM uses Deadeye shot as finisher and not hasted shot anymore.

    Post-Change Ranger:

    http://i.imgur.com/ZkNrO88.png

    Still no Nightblade changes???
    Last edited by huangchingho; 12-17-2016 at 03:52 AM.

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    So they nerf the only spec that could not even get close to the top dps specs of other classes....great job trion....wht about pyro doing 500k or runeshaper or riftblade doing over 400 k sure fr pvp the changes are great but when raids come out how will rogue face the compettion?will we just be healing or wht???

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    Quote Originally Posted by bollesti View Post
    So they nerf the only spec that could not even get close to the top dps specs of other classes....great job trion....wht about pyro doing 500k or runeshaper or riftblade doing over 400 k sure fr pvp the changes are great but when raids come out how will rogue face the compettion?will we just be healing or wht???
    They also received changes (nerfs).

    http://forums.riftgame.com/general-d...e-changes.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bollesti View Post
    So they nerf the only spec that could not even get close to the top dps specs of other classes....great job trion....wht about pyro doing 500k or runeshaper or riftblade doing over 400 k sure fr pvp the changes are great but when raids come out how will rogue face the compettion?will we just be healing or wht???
    It's because huangchinho made a 1 button spam shadeborn which could do 400k so it was nerfed. Also, playing shadeborn properly does roughly 20% below the 1 button finisher spam version. It's all his fault.

    And yea pyroele/clerics got a few nerfs don't know if they are heavy enough so they can no longer do 500k tho.
    Last edited by FateStayNight; 12-17-2016 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huangchingho View Post
    Change is good,

    just parsed MM and SB on PTS,

    Marksman seems to be top DPS spec now, SB's is nerfed by like 50-60k.

    MM uses Deadeye shot as finisher and not hasted shot anymore.

    Post-Change Ranger:

    http://i.imgur.com/ZkNrO88.png

    Still no Nightblade changes???
    你看看你,就因为你傻逼都被nerf了,你在说mm top dps,下一个消弱的就是mm了。。
    赶紧去研究研究下nb和sin好让这两个buff下
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    對阿
    為何不多說一點Sin and NB 要buff?
    一直出1 button guide spec 都被nerf光光
    你朋友都讓你別傻B了
    Last edited by FateStayNight; 12-17-2016 at 05:16 AM.

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    怪我咯,都是我錯咯

    BTW ,傻逼was referring to Shadeborn if you didn't know :P
    Last edited by huangchingho; 12-17-2016 at 05:24 AM.

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