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    Default Why is Rogue itemization so terrible?

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    Our T2 weapon drops so far. Our T1 drops are extremely similar (albeit with Rogues >0).

    It's probably a mixture of bad loot tables & 2Hs for other classes (and small sample size), but I really just wanted to vent here.

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    There are no Rogue weapons in HK, only Mage/Cleric weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebucent View Post
    There are no Rogue weapons in HK, only Mage/Cleric weapons.
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    Put some numbers on that so we can tell you how statistically insignificant your sample size is!

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    All of our clerics have both dps and healing 2 handers, along with dps and/or healing totem to go with it, think we've had 1, maybe 2 mage 2 hander, and we got our first warrior 1 hander this week (clearing at least 5/11 since week 1 - so all the weapon bosses). Still yet to see a rogue weapon
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    Going to be even more fun once the new calling comes out. Maybe you raid for 1 year then you get a weapon just in time for next tier no probs.
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    Can confirm rogue weapons exist my guild had 1 rogue 1hander drop to the 6 or 7 warrior 2h drops. With primalist able to use the same weapons it really makes for a fun time for rogues.

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    We still have 5/7 Rogues without Draum Ra. We have seen 1 rogue weapon from Estrode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebucent View Post
    There are no Rogue weapons in HK, only Mage/Cleric weapons.
    Please show me that mage weapons. We are yet to see one mainhand. 2 tanking staves do not count. That saying, we don't get rogues weapons either, while 2h for warriors drop all the time. I think all our wars have it now >.>
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    New Idea: Weapon Chests.

    Instead of dropping weapons, the boss drops a chest that contains a weapon appropriate for the calling of whoever opens it.

    Weapons for everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasmani View Post
    New Idea: Weapon Chests.

    Instead of dropping weapons, the boss drops a chest that contains a weapon appropriate for the calling of whoever opens it.

    Weapons for everyone!
    If we're seriously getting a 5th calling then something like this needs to happen for raids and dungeons sooner rather than later.
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    rogue itemization is terrible for 2 reasons. the first is we have no option for 2 handers, we are forced into 1handers, and there aren't extra weapon to make up for the fact that we don't have options. the other reason is that we are the only class that also needs a ranged weapon. so not only do we get less weapons total, we need the most. it's terrible and has been addressed many times and is always ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loratex View Post
    the other reason is that we are the only class that also needs a ranged weapon.
    Need is a relative term here. With NT, all classes now "need" to get their ranged weapon so they can have enough hit to proceed to the next tier (excluding hit runes. In vanilla and SL, you could afford to be missing one piece of hit gear and still have enough hit for the next tier). The fact remains that our ranged specs are the most affected by not having a ranged weapon. For warriors, it's a base stat stick. For casters, their "big" increase is spread evenly for all specs across the three weapon slots (MH, OH, ranged).

    Still something that needs to be fixed IMO. Still don't know why weapon dps calcs don't use an average of your three weapons for warriors and rogues to match what casters have to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avocados View Post
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    Our T2 weapon drops so far. Our T1 drops are extremely similar (albeit with Rogues >0).

    It's probably a mixture of bad loot tables & 2Hs for other classes (and small sample size), but I really just wanted to vent here.

    Rogue drops a lot for our guild. It is rogue and mage loot followed by cleric and then warrior. It is all random. For instance we have better threngar and finric itemization for rogues for the last month ++. Two one handers, finric bowx3 etc.
    Last edited by Planetx; 06-18-2015 at 09:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planetx View Post
    Rogue drops a lot for our guild. It is rogue and mage loot followed by cleric and then warrior. It is all random. For instance we have better threngar and finric itemization for rogues for the last month ++. Two one handers, finric bowx3 etc.
    T1 wasn't nearly as bad, not great, but not as bad as HK is (for rogues)
    Last edited by ILikeOranges; 06-19-2015 at 05:03 AM.


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