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    Bard Tests

    Lotís of confusion out there on how the Bard works. What soul talents work with what, does spell power work better then melee attack, what type of weapon to use, etc, etc, etc.

    What Iím proposing here is a serious of tests the Bard can do for the next upcoming Beta and if we can figure things out.


    Weapons Ė Which Slot
    Points only in Bard Soul. No points elsewhere. Bard only uses Weapons with no +stats on them. Main Hand, Off Hand, and Range Weapons all have different damage ranges for this test. One of the weapons should have a Higher damage range but a lower DPS then one of the other weapons.

    What answers Bards seek.
    Does it matter which slot the weapon is in?
    Is a higher damage range on a weapon better then the DPS of the Weapon?


    Using Cadence Only (on target dummies in main city)
    Base line Test Ė No Weapons equipped: Average Damage =

    All Weapons Equipped: Average Damage =

    Main Hand Weapon Only Equipped: Damage Range: DPS: Average Damage =

    Off Hand Weapon Only Equipped: Damage Range: DPS: Average Damage =

    Ranged Weapon Only Equipped: Damage Range: DPS: Average Damage =


    Other Souls.
    Now that you have a base line. Try adding other souls into the mix and compare numbers. Please post what other souls you used. Most of the other soul talents only work on finishers so you might want to try the same tests using Coda of Wrath and get the average.

    +Spell Power vs +Melee Damage
    Lots of debate over this. What itís starting to look like is that Cadence might use both.
    Since the Bardís Songs use both Weapon + Life damage.

    Tests Ė
    Do the same tests as above but equip Runes and/or Rift stones that add +melee damage or +Spell damage.


    Please post your results so we can compare.

    PS. Any other tests people can thing of to help us figure out whatís what with the Bard?

    PSS. I tossed this together at work in between jobs so I know I forgot / made mistakes on stuff.

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    hmmm... nice idea. I did ask around about these things without testing it myself. Will test those in next beta as soon as i reach level cap

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    can motif of regeneration and coda of restoration crit? and if so are they affected by melee/phyiscal crit from dex or spell crit from int?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalice View Post
    can motif of regeneration and coda of restoration crit? and if so are they affected by melee/phyiscal crit from dex or spell crit from int?
    they can crit, and from my experience when regen does crit, it crits throughout the duration. Pretty op

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    Cloth +int and +wis gear is easy to craft, I was planning on trying a set of that as well as what you outlined above with the weapons. Also, +spellpower daggers (also easily crafted) are an probably the easiest way to get spellpower, I think for +attack power might be easiest to use riftstalker soul.
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    Fun idea to test, though I'd skip the +spell power part; all rogue abilities are based off dex and attack power. It's the same way that all Riftblade soul abilities are based off attack power, even though some of them are purely elemental damage.
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    There are alot of us doing tests come friday

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    Cadence doesn't use both it uses spell dmg as of beta 5.
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    I actually tested spelldmg in beta 5 with cadence, and it dident do anything, had over 200 spelldmg

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    Does it matter which slot the weapon is in?
    No

    Is a higher damage range on a weapon better then the DPS of the Weapon?
    Currently yes it matters, higher damage range is more important. However once weapon normalization is done the DPS of the weapon will be what your looking for.
    Last edited by Drekor; 02-03-2011 at 05:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonC View Post
    I actually tested spelldmg in beta 5 with cadence, and it dident do anything, had over 200 spelldmg
    Yea I'm gonna say no you never did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mavik View Post
    Bard Tests

    Using Cadence Only (on target dummies in main city)
    Base line Test Ė No Weapons equipped: Average Damage =
    Where are the testing dummies? I looked around for some and never found any.

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    There are dummies in Meridian by the ranger trainers. To the left of the main entrance if you are heading in.

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    I tested Cadence without any equip or buff with like 60 atk power from strenght/dex and it was hitting mobs for 30-35

    Then I equipped all my items and buffed up to 300atk power trough dex/strenght and It was hitting for 50-55




    Ps: target dummies are too high lvl atm, you cant test anything on em, its just miss,miss,miss and more miss and when you actually manage to hit them it is for 10dmg... plase trion, add a target dummy for every 10 lvl
    Last edited by Atreiu; 02-03-2011 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MopDaddy View Post
    You might be the world best pvp bard...but for the love of god, revisitate your build, its awful.
    Last edited by Atreiu; 02-03-2011 at 06:23 AM.

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