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    I've been trying to follow guides that have been posted (I mainly used Seatin's guide), and I just don't feel like I'm getting the numbers I should be getting. My stats are as follows:

    AP: 10016
    Dex: 6530
    CP: 2843

    I always start from stealth, use energy manipulation>expose weakness>jagged strike> builder until 5 points (if not there already)> Impale> puncture and then I keep puncture up, expose weakness up, and use jagged strike whenever thread of death is off cd. Here are my macros:

    Builder (I know Poison Malice should be used with cds but I didn't think it would make a huge difference compared to keeping it on cd)
    Code:
    #show Backstab
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Poison Malice
    cast Debilitating Dart
    cast Serpent Strike
    cast Backstab
    cast Savage Strike
    cast Quick Shot
    Finisher
    Code:
    #show Final Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast @self Energy Manipulation
    cast Final Blow
    cast Head Shot
    Jagged Strike
    Code:
    #show Thread of Death
    Suppressmacrofailures
    cast Thread of Death
    cast Jagged Strike
    And here is my bar layout (not sure it's really important)61 Assassin for PVE (Help)-2015-01-29_091501.jpg
    Last edited by Artewig; 01-29-2015 at 09:29 AM.

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    You forgot sleep away for another jagged and cloak and dagger buff
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    Quote Originally Posted by xosomething View Post
    You forgot sleep away for another jagged and cloak and dagger buff
    Yeah I tend to save that for when I'm the only one left to prevent wipes. Does it really add that much more dps?

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    Of course it's a bug lost and if you are le last alive it's anyway a wipe. You lost si much DPS to keep few platines... Good spirit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artewig View Post
    Yeah I tend to save that for when I'm the only one left to prevent wipes. Does it really add that much more dps?
    Not really sure what XO was trying to say there, but yes, not using Slip Away is a big DPS loss for a couple reasons:
    1) Jagged is our single biggest damaging builder
    2) Higher up time for Cloak and Dagger
    3) Grants 3 CPs, so you get an extra finisher or 2.

    Secondly, make sure you're properly managing your Serpent Strike. Some people use separate macros (one with it, one without), I prefer to have it on it's own key. The big key here is to not waste any CPs. If you're doing the dual-macro strategy, you want to switch to the non-serpent one when you're at 4CPs. I prefer to keep it separated because there are times it'll come off CD between the 4-5CP GCD, so I can use it there and get the finisher off 1 GCD sooner.

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    Also macroing poison malice is a huge mistake. You should use poison malice with raid cds.
    Opener should be: expose-jagged-punture-serpent-impale
    Last edited by N3okorrales; 01-29-2015 at 10:25 AM.

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    Hi Art,

    Send me a tell when you're next in game and I'll run through this with you if you want?

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    So I got around to upgrading some gear and I took a look at my rotation. (Plus I pulled out Poison Malice, but will still keep it in for stuff like dungeons where there aren't really raid cds). Turns out, I was clipping Impale and Puncture and that was cutting into my dps. I've been trying to work in the Slip Away, but I need to make a cloak and dagger kalert. My new stats are

    AP:10190
    Dex: 6548
    CP: 2984

    Thanks for the help. If you have any other suggestions, I look forward to hearing them.

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    Alright, I know a 1 minute parse is a horrible way to run a test, but I was getting quite energy starved. Are my numbers lining up with my stats? Or am I still missing something?

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