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    * Enhanced Weapon Enchantments: Now 20% per talent point, down from 30%.
    * Heat Retention:
    Now 1/2/3% per talent point invested per stack of Heat Retention.
    Now has a 100% chance to apply on a combo point generating damaging ability being used.
    Internal Heat no longer removes stacks of Heat Retention, and is 10/20/30% bonus damage to finishers per talent point invested.
    * Living Flame: Increased range to 10m, up from 5m.


    How is this going to affect nb.sin? I know cancelbuff wont be necessary any more, but is this an indirect nerf?

    P.S. probably wont matter since mm will be super op

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    Last I heard, 61 sin and nb/sin were still going to be ahead of MM, though MM would be ahead of Ranger

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaDagger View Post
    How is this going to affect nb.sin? I know cancelbuff wont be necessary any more, but is this an indirect nerf?
    HR was buffed, weapon enchants obviously nerfed, no more scorch & wither either.

    The HR change will also make the ranged rotation even easier, as you wont have to worry about accidentally consuming HR stacks anymore.

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    little odd wording but it will be a nerd regardless. what i am not sure about is will internal heat still have a 5 stack mechanic, or is it just a flat 30% boost to all finishers. a flat boost would mean when you use dusk to dawn you would still be getting the 30% boost which use to not be the case. i think nb/sin will still be the go to spec over 61 sin, not sure how it compares to 61 MM yet though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artewig View Post
    Last I heard, 61 sin and nb/sin were still going to be ahead of MM, though MM would be ahead of Ranger
    ^This atleast what happen to clerics doesnt happen to our class..
    Where every cleric dont want to play melee cause inquisitor got better performance

    im one of the people who are really happy(at first upset cause they nerf MM before it hit live),that i can still play melee or there's still a point on playing melee cause you will still get rewarded more for playing melee than playing range.

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    It's a small nerf to nb/sin but it's still a strong spec but now it won't be almost the only spec to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    It's a small nerf to nb/sin but it's still a strong spec but now it won't be almost the only spec to play.
    I am sure we wont know till the numbers are run, but how much of a buff to 61NB is this? Since you dont lose your HR stacks, all finishers with Dark Decent are buffed, could bring it inline with the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaDagger View Post
    I am sure we wont know till the numbers are run, but how much of a buff to 61NB is this? Since you dont lose your HR stacks, all finishers with Dark Decent are buffed, could bring it inline with the others.
    It's a significant buff to 61 NB since much smaller portion of dps comes from enhanced weapon enchantsments and finishers are a larger portion of the dps compared to nb/sin. I think I deleted the math I did on it already but iirc it was around 4k dps increase. I'm looking forward to trying it out more in raids to see how it compares but I would say it's definitely up there especially if you can line up the burst with raid cooldowns.

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    03:55 Jinoscoth: 1165569DPS | Zhare 97809 | Dimag 89336 | Karga 89240 | Wanz 88764 | Lylas 87335 | Damou 86029 | Pymou 83944 | Sendo 80905 | Sanak 73326 | Sariy 71694 | Johno 70929 | Lepre 55266 | Piit 47670 | Heddr 42482 | Block 29173 | Ghaal 18658 | Malha 18620 | Bioum 14387 | Meowt 13954 | Shqrk 6049

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    Quote Originally Posted by zHAREF View Post
    03:55 Jinoscoth: 1165569DPS | Zhare 97809 | Dimag 89336 | Karga 89240 | Wanz 88764 | Lylas 87335 | Damou 86029 | Pymou 83944 | Sendo 80905 | Sanak 73326 | Sariy 71694 | Johno 70929 | Lepre 55266 | Piit 47670 | Heddr 42482 | Block 29173 | Ghaal 18658 | Malha 18620 | Bioum 14387 | Meowt 13954 | Shqrk 6049

    fresh parse on jino tonight with 38/38
    But what were you doing before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewaysspittin View Post
    But what were you doing before?
    my guess is *** *** ***.

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    Was doing 57.2k DPS with 38/38 on lvl 67 dummy pre patch, post 3.1 with the points moved back to 3/3 heat I am getting 55.5k.I think they nerfed my transformation greater a little again, only have it doing 375 DPS, pretty sure it was 600 DPS pre patch tho I can't be sure. 61 nb got buffed with the changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewaysspittin View Post
    But what were you doing before?
    We were doing crapy cristals and not always just one so no good comparison.
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    Before patch i think my record was 90k , but this week was the first time we made only 1 cristal. .

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