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    Default About the "Upcoming Rogue Changes" thread

    Could you lock and unsticky the current one and make a new one with only the changes that aren't already scheduled for patch?

    Wading through 40 pages of bickering to read the few gems hidden in there is getting difficult.
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    When 2.6 goes live, I'll retire that thread and start a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladd View Post
    When 2.6 goes live, I'll retire that thread and start a new one.
    Personally, I suggest loading that thread onto a physical machine, and then taking that machine out into a field Office Space style.

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    look i'm not talking **** or anything i know you have alot on your plate, but considering that 2.6 is right around the corner any word on the NB, MM and ranger stuff. You can't fathom how dissapointed i was when the flame blitz change didn't go thru. I've been championing that spec forever.

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    When 2.6 goes live, I'll retire that thread and start a new one.
    Oh goodie. So glad the problems with ranged rogue specs have been taken seriously.
    I saw a 20k health warrior today 3 shot me as tempest, and I have 4x piece Myrmidon on my alt. ~ Gunzip

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    So far I haven't seen anything noticeably different with range DPS in PTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twing View Post
    So far I haven't seen anything noticeably different with range DPS in PTS.
    Working as intended, ranged dps is supposed to be far behind melee.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    I believe Assassin DoTs are uncleansable.

    It's still a terrible PvP spec compared to Marksman, though.

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    Working as intended, ranged dps is supposed to be far behind melee.
    Ranged specs aren't supposed to be pitifully behind other ranged specs. If this is working as intended . . . bye.
    I saw a 20k health warrior today 3 shot me as tempest, and I have 4x piece Myrmidon on my alt. ~ Gunzip

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    Quote Originally Posted by desaroth View Post
    look i'm not talking **** or anything i know you have alot on your plate, but considering that 2.6 is right around the corner any word on the NB, MM and ranger stuff. You can't fathom how dissapointed i was when the flame blitz change didn't go thru. I've been championing that spec forever.
    So you can cleave pad for the win? And be less noticeable like in BD, 47% hundred blades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodicca View Post
    Ranged specs aren't supposed to be pitifully behind other ranged specs. If this is working as intended . . . bye.
    Dont let the door hit you on the way out sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunzip View Post
    Working as intended, ranged dps is supposed to be far behind melee.
    So Tempest (range spec) being MORE DPS then rogue melee specs isn't intended, nice to know. Change it please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyme View Post
    So Tempest (range spec) being MORE DPS then rogue melee specs isn't intended, nice to know. Change it please.
    In what scenario is Tempest outdoing rogue melee?
    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    I believe Assassin DoTs are uncleansable.

    It's still a terrible PvP spec compared to Marksman, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodicca View Post
    Ranged specs aren't supposed to be pitifully behind other ranged specs. If this is working as intended . . . bye.
    Are we talking about people not playing the spec correctly?> Because I know a lot of people just aren't good at mm or ranger...

    So really we need to figure out if the people saying certain specs are so far behind even know how to play said spec.

    If you look at your MM breakdown, is your swift shot more dmg than your empowered shot?

    Do you have under 500 crit power?

    Do you use sentry battery as a single target attack as you wait for empowered shot to come off of cd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunzip View Post
    In what scenario is Tempest outdoing rogue melee?
    In any scenario which has increased damage phase.

    Para being 10% in front of melee rogues is not enough, some tempest hybrids and full tempest as well (in some scenarios) need to crush rogue melee builds too. I won't even mention rogue ranged specs, no one takes them seriously anymore.

    Little by little I'm becoming sick of warrior opness in this game, its just too annoying for too long. I guess it could be worse, I could be main spec mage, but that is a small comfort :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eione View Post
    In any scenario which has increased damage phase.

    Para being 10% in front of melee rogues is not enough, some tempest hybrids and full tempest as well (in some scenarios) need to crush rogue melee builds too. I won't even mention rogue ranged specs, no one takes them seriously anymore.

    Little by little I'm becoming sick of warrior opness in this game, its just too annoying for too long. I guess it could be worse, I could be main spec mage, but that is a small comfort :-)
    When there is zero damage increase mechanics, I have not seen tempest do more than my melee builds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    I believe Assassin DoTs are uncleansable.

    It's still a terrible PvP spec compared to Marksman, though.

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