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    Default I need a rog DPS build (for raiding/dungeons)

    I have sin, MM and ranger atm.
    ranger is ~10k dps selfbuffed, no PA buffs
    MM is ~9k
    sin is ~9.5k

    is there a spec that does more damage? im open to melee builds. i enjoyed bladedancer while levelling, but sometimes i messed up the rotation (like, using quick instead of precision). not a major problem, if BD is good dps atm, im game.

    i've never played NB, or sab. (i think by now you have understood that i absolutely suck at sin, and cant play sin to save my life)

    what are my options?

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    looks like im gonna have to try them all again.

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    Run 1 button Sab for dungeon/raid trash.
    Run whatever build is most optimal or needed by your raid for each raid boss.

    MM and NB are my most-played builds. But I mean.. you can't just generalize it into "a spec that does more damage" because every fight plays to different strengths of different builds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDoomgiver View Post
    what are my options?
    Every rogue DPS soul.

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    ok, so here is som hard data :

    http://i.imgur.com/nUoAg6i.png

    it took me a 5 min parse with BD to get this high (yes, i was at ~6k in first min, then steadily increased to this point)

    as of right now, this build is doing higher dps than sin, BUT, sin wins if the fight is less than 1-2 min long.

    am i doin it rite?

    EDIT : i managed to macro bladedancer
    1 button has QS + BS, 2nd has PS + BS. a 3rd button has dauntless + double strike.
    Last edited by TheDoomgiver; 12-15-2013 at 09:02 PM.

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    welp, now im trying out NB. what is wrong with me???

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    am i doin it rite?
    No. You're not using Dancing Steel or Hundred Blades. I recommend reading the guide in my signature.

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    even on single target fights?

    rest of the parse is ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDoomgiver View Post
    even on single target fights?
    Read the guide.

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    check out guides and learn rotations my friend that is ur best bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    No. You're not using Dancing Steel or Hundred Blades. I recommend reading the guide in my signature.
    His breakdowns aren't bad nor is his dps for the gear, and it's debateable if you should use them single target or not (depending on the fight and if you have to save them for aoe obviously.) And even using them vs not using them isn't a huge margin in single target, we're talking sub 200 dps gain in his gear.

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    Ranger is the highest dps spec for low gear probably, because of the pets poor scaling but relatively high starting dps. As you get better gear it will drop behind the melee specs by a larger margin but will still remain the highest single target ranged dps spec as rogue. For now I would suggest you just stick with it and have an aoe spec you can swap to during trash.
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    Meh was too slow at editing anyway to give you a general idea this is how I parse on target dummies selfbuffed (with fervor or living energy to avoid energy starvation, of course.):

    sin 18k
    sin/nb 17.4k
    bd 17.5k
    Nb 16.7k
    Ranger 15k

    Of course you can't really do NB on target dummies since your dps increases a lot past 30% on the bosses and somewhat the same for sin/nb but to a lesser extent. MM isn't really worth mentioning dps wise the only reason to run that spec is if you lack purges really.
    Last edited by Sacria; 12-19-2013 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDoomgiver View Post
    ok, so here is som hard data :

    http://i.imgur.com/nUoAg6i.png

    it took me a 5 min parse with BD to get this high (yes, i was at ~6k in first min, then steadily increased to this point)

    as of right now, this build is doing higher dps than sin, BUT, sin wins if the fight is less than 1-2 min long.

    am i doin it rite?


    EDIT : i managed to macro bladedancer
    1 button has QS + BS, 2nd has PS + BS. a 3rd button has dauntless + double strike.

    Bladedancer does not use macros, get rid of them if you made any.
    Last edited by Gunzip; 12-19-2013 at 05:16 AM.
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    I believe Assassin DoTs are uncleansable.

    It's still a terrible PvP spec compared to Marksman, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunzip View Post
    Bladedancer does not use macros, get rid of them if you made any.
    Not true, you can easily make two alternating macroes with PS/BS and QS/BS as it's the same as having 3 buttons keybound with qs, ps and bs. The dauntless strike/double strike macro is fine also if he has it so he uses doublestrike if he doesn't use a modifier and dauntless strike if he uses a modifier.

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