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    61 Tactician? No Guids or builds?

    Why aren't there and guides for it? Does anyone even use 61 Tac? I wanna try and use it.. Maybe do it for DPS?Support for Dungeons/Raids... I think 61 tac would be really good support for Rifts/Sourcewells etc..... I just got back to the game and tac looks like a really cool soul.. Currently trying out that Tac/Mark build for DPS and its ok but its not alot fun... I'm Pro towards 61 builds...

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    61 Tactician's DPS is bad. Its healing is also terrible unless you have 15+ people stacked in the exact same spot, which only happens on a single encounter in the game.

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    then why did the devs make such a gimped soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetBlaise View Post
    then why did the devs make such a gimped soul?
    It's not gimped. Tactician/Marksman is an absolutely vital build for raiding. Without it, encounters like hardmode Gelidra are borderline impossible. Maybe even completely impossible.
    Last edited by Muspel; 06-13-2013 at 01:54 PM.

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    then why did the devs make such a gimped soul?Also..

    bards can really only heal 5 players/raid at any given time were a tac can heal 10+ players/raid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetBlaise View Post
    then why did the devs make such a gimped soul?Also..
    Again, it's not gimped. The soul is so strong it had to be heavily nerfed. Even after that, it's still arguably overpowered.

    Quote Originally Posted by NetBlaise View Post
    bards can really only heal 5 players/raid at any given time were a tac can heal 10+ players/raid...
    What's your point? Neither one is a healing soul.
    Last edited by Muspel; 06-13-2013 at 01:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    It's not gimped. Tactician/Marksman is an absolutely vital build for raiding. Without it, encounters like hardmode Gelidra are borderline impossible. Maybe even completely impossible.
    SO pretty much your saying the support part of tac is whats bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetBlaise View Post
    SO pretty much your saying the support part of tac is whats bad?
    Trion tends to play fast and loose with the definition of "support".

    Just like with Dominator, Tactician's job is to provide industrial-strength AoE. Personally, I'd argue that they're both DPS souls, but Trion seems to disagree.

    The fact that the soul isn't good at the things that you want it to be doesn't make it weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muspel View Post
    Trion tends to play fast and loose with the definition of "support".

    Just like with Dominator, Tactician's job is to provide industrial-strength AoE. Personally, I'd argue that they're both DPS souls, but Trion seems to disagree.

    The fact that the soul isn't good at the things that you want it to be doesn't make it weak.
    Unlike Dominator though, it also provides healing and some unique buffs, I think this is why it's considered "support". Dominator is considered support because of the CC, it was marked support long before it was any good at AoE damage. Support in this game is a mess but that's the reasoning as I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGrinnz View Post
    Unlike Dominator though, it also provides healing and some unique buffs, I think this is why it's considered "support". Dominator is considered support because of the CC, it was marked support long before it was any good at AoE damage. Support in this game is a mess but that's the reasoning as I see it.
    Yeah, I understand the reasoning, it's just really inconsistent. Druid is just as much support as Tactician is-- arguably even more so-- but it's flagged as DPS. (Yeah, I know it's technically half-support, but you know what I mean.)

    Hence, "fast and loose".

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    ahh ok.. thx alot for clearing that up for me.. I just couldn't understand what support means in this game...

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    Here's my comprehensive 2-step guide to 61 tactician:
    1. Use Restorative Bolt to build up 5 combo points
    2. Switch spec

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    I don't know how to break it but....Tactician is just not leet.
    New round up of some high rank matches
    Chun-Li*E.Honda*Evil Ryu
    Abel*Ibuki*Dhalsim
    Gouken*Zangief*Ryu

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