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    Telaran Talio's Avatar
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    Default Attack power soft cap?

    I was just wondering if anyone has any numbers to show what the attack power soft cap is for rogues. I keep hearing 3200 non raid buffed tossed around but have yet to find any data to back up that number. 3200 seems extremely low even for a soft cap considering we are all only raiding tier 1 right now.

    For those that don't know you'll be approaching 3200 attack power self buffed with just bis expert/world/crafted gear. Obviously finding out where diminishing returns starts is key for building your bis source machine, when augmenting Bow of Twisted Souls, Tactical Advantage and when to swap out gear like one of your Keen Furious Chrysoprase Eye for a Arcbound Knuckle.

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    Pretty sure AP doesn't cap in and of itself. That is why it was the key stat to stack back at 50 as you didn't hit diminishing returns on it. There will be a point where it loses value relative to crit/crit power given the way everything multiplies together. To work that out you will need to wait for people to do testing at different gear levels and with different specs to work out stat weights (a couple of threads on this exist) or to try your own testing. There is not, however, any game mechanic that says after whatever AP level you get only y% of the value as there is with crit. For now there should not be any situation where AP is not either the best choice or pretty close to it, with only CP coming close in some specs where you have a lot of +crit talents.
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    People need to start thinking instead of making up ominous caps right and left.
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    Yeah, uh... I don't think you know what a soft cap is. If there were one, it wouldn't be something where you eyeball and say "it's around here", it would be a result of the stat suddenly having a lesser effect past a certain point. The old crit softcap is the most obvious example-- once you reached a certain threshold, each subsequent point of crit had 1/5 the effect.

    And a hard cap would be if a stat becomes completely worthless past a certain point. Hit and Toughness have hard caps within each tier (barring certain fights that may lower them, like Akylios).

    There's nothing remotely like either one of those for Attack Power.
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    So nobody remembers when EIAW completely blew warrior AP pools far past anything people are still reaching at 60, without any mathematical conflict?

    No cap friends, and if there is, it is not obtainable by realistic means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violacea View Post
    So nobody remembers when EIAW completely blew warrior AP pools far past anything people are still reaching at 60, without any mathematical conflict?

    No cap friends, and if there is, it is not obtainable by realistic means.
    Everyone already said there was no soft cap, and then you lumped them in with the OP?

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    wtb someone to stack 100 whetstones to demonstrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunharrow View Post
    Everyone already said there was no soft cap, and then you lumped them in with the OP?
    I just said what was true regarding AP and caps.
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