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    Default 51 or 61 sab?

    I say 51 All Day Long. What you get past 51 doesnt beat out whats given in MM/Tact off souls.

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    Enough for rapid setup, imo. No more, no less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valliac View Post
    Enough for rapid setup, imo. No more, no less.
    agreed. For those 61 Sab I'm curious what is worth giving up? Single Minded Focus, Keen Eye, Increased FP, or Tact. Ionization and Strategic Advantage? For a Spike bomb trap throw and molotovlol
    Last edited by Neonaraj; 11-28-2012 at 10:42 AM.

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    My onslaught build has 52 Sab, everything not trap related. I tried to make traps work, but they add almost nothing.

    Rest of build is 4 in tac (a lot of bombs are earth anyways) and the rest in MM.

    I'm level 55 right now.

    For macros, check out the 2-button Sab thread. Basically I just tweaked it for onslaughts
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    I just tried 51 Sab 25 NB last night.

    NB I took:

    5/5 Blazing Fury - 10% combos
    5/5 Burning Rage -10 % Ap & Weapon Damage
    5/5 Coup De Grace 10% Finishers
    2/3 Unstable State 4 % non-physcial
    2/2 Melted Skin 5% dmg
    3/3 Fire & Death Attunement 6% dmg
    3/3 Heat Retention 2% per combo point @ 5 stacks 30% DMG

    I haven't fully tested this yet. But on the AOE group in Tempest Bay was pulling around 30K DPS. In experts this spec is less clunky than a lot of other builds as their are less bombs to throw.

    In experts most mobs die so fast I don't really have a set rotation

    I open with

    Rapid setup-Caltrop-Chemical Bomb-Annhilate-Frag-Carpet Bomb-Annihilate x3-Frag Bomb-Ember Bomb-Splinter Bomb

    I macro my finishers to one button

    Annhilate
    Frag
    Detonate

    Then I put Ember and Splinter on a seperate button as a debuff macro

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    Personally, i have done a 51 sab / 20 sin / 5 nb, the dps is really close to 61 (or a little better), and you can apply lethal, that help the raid.
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    Dont use 51 OR 61 point build. Yes, not having cocktail or rapid is crazy but the proof is in the parse.
    *I ran 5 different specs - 2 of them with full 61 points and 3 hybrid specs.
    *Parsed on 6 packs of dummies – last row center.
    *The rotation was consistent +/- couple of abilities based on the build.
    *Consumables were simply whetstones (40ap) poison, and self-buffs.


    61 SAB 15 Assassin 0RS (61 for Molotov cocktail)
    32K

    61 SAB 10 Assassin 5 MM (61 for Molotov cocktail)
    35K

    51 SAB 20 Assassin 5 NB (51 for Rapid set-up)
    35K

    44 SAB 20 Assassin 12 MM (44 for High Explosives)
    37.5

    44 SAB 17 Assassin 15 MM (44 for High Explosives)
    38.5K

    It looks like the 44 point builds seem to work best. And Ill challenge anyone in a parse test who says otherwise.

    P.S. My gear is super weak.... Cheers!
    Last edited by Meatbone; 11-29-2012 at 09:45 AM.
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    Please post parse numbers with your builds. All I see is a bunch of lip flapping. LOVE YOU!
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    Yeh, rapid setup, along with silent, have lost a lot of power with the new CP system, I don't see a reason to go above 44 if you are planning on a mostly bomb oriented rotation, not totally sure on if you wanted to do charges and bombs.

    I have been playing Tact, just cause its new, so I guess you can take my input as such. But I can only assume that 44/20sin for lethal/HE, would be overall a nice choice, if wanting to do nice Aoe, and have a ranged lethal spec in one slot.
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    Default Build and rotation please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meatbone View Post
    Dont use 51 OR 61 point build. Yes, not having cocktail or rapid is crazy but the proof is in the parse.
    *I ran 5 different specs - 2 of them with full 61 points and 3 hybrid specs.
    *Parsed on 6 packs of dummies last row center.
    *The rotation was consistent +/- couple of abilities based on the build.
    *Consumables were simply whetstones (40ap) poison, and self-buffs.


    61 SAB 15 Assassin 0RS (61 for Molotov cocktail)
    32K

    61 SAB 10 Assassin 5 MM (61 for Molotov cocktail)
    35K

    51 SAB 20 Assassin 5 NB (51 for Rapid set-up)
    35K

    44 SAB 20 Assassin 12 MM (44 for High Explosives)
    37.5

    44 SAB 17 Assassin 15 MM (44 for High Explosives)
    38.5K

    It looks like the 44 point builds seem to work best. And Ill challenge anyone in a parse test who says otherwise.

    P.S. My gear is super weak.... Cheers!
    at least for the last build. Thanks!

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    Default Bumping this

    Meat - do you have some specifics on the builds you used? Thanks in advance!

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    Be aware that there was an undocumented ninja nerf to weapon enchantment procs after this discussion transpired and before it was necroed.

    Played around for some hours, did best with 51 builds, 20mm/5NB and 20Sin/5NB were very close, settled for 20mm for now.

    As for the 45Sab/26NB build: only works when you hit 5 targets with the DoT charges. Was my favourite until I went to test on the 3 dummies in Meridian and found out how the HR stacks really get applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandarb View Post
    Be aware that there was an undocumented ninja nerf to weapon enchantment procs after this discussion transpired and before it was necroed.
    This.

    Playing around with my old sabo build and it's not doing as well as it did. Shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thikk View Post
    Meat - do you have some specifics on the builds you used? Thanks in advance!
    Well I’m currently at work and off the top of my head I don’t fully remember, but Ill post my rotation and build within the next couple of days… btw I never post my builds… I feel anyone can do it. You’re just lazy, LAZY I SAY!!
    Last edited by Meatbone; 12-10-2012 at 01:24 PM.
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    Meats 2 Button Sab Build

    #show annihilation bomb
    cast Annihilation bomb
    cast cloud maker
    cast time bomb
    cast splinter bomb
    cast fragmentation bomb
    cast embers bomb
    cast carpet bombing
    cast caltrop charge or spike for ST

    Keep up chem bomb

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