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    Default Think tactician will end up toned down.

    Done a couple port scoins where they were way ahead of everyone else in dps and kb's . Plus the mobile snare is just brutal . Whether it gets toned down or not I am sure its the new fotm for the aoe fights .

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    I kinda hope it doesn't, because it has such a unique playstyle. I mean if it's grossly overpowered it should be nerfed appropriately, but it'd be a shame to see that soul nerfed into uselessness.
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    Surprised to see this.

    I imagine it'll follow the same nerf path as Saboteur did based on Port Scion performance.
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    Default I agree its a nice change up for the rogue soul .

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaros View Post
    I kinda hope it doesn't, because it has such a unique playstyle. I mean if it's grossly overpowered it should be nerfed appropriately, but it'd be a shame to see that soul nerfed into uselessness.
    It could be that the matches I was in where the exception to the rule . The healing for both sides was roughly 7 million each and the guy still ended up with 58 kbs . The channeled snare is not breaking even after i used break free . Pretty sure that is not working as intended.

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    With positioning being such a big deal with tactician, I can't see it being a very attractive soul if they nerf it too much because of that. It should have a higher possible ceiling than some souls.

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    xD We might get surgically altered overall if we go too far over warriors, if you've been to warrior forums at all in the past two hours...

    Though in all seriousness, I don't think Tact will be touched too horribly unless it's severely outdoing everyone not only in pvp, but non-group and group pve situations as well. Especially since we don't have the same problems as...those other callings.

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    It is a pretty self exclusive soul, as in, the benefits it gives imo really lean more towards benefitting the soul itself. Sort of like the Sab/bard if I had to pick. This was originally posted in the pvp boards so I assume it was for pvp. I don't see why they would. All their good support is based on 15s stationary placed items and cones. They are a very interesting class. I don't see anything overpowered at all. I see a fluent one being a good asset to a team though, sure. Feels like a bard with better self buffs/more aoe. Whereas a bard has great group buffs and more ST damage. Or at least st damage with it's own set of perks (like cadenza resetting CDs). They do their own thing. Don't see the tactician as anything amazingly OP yet. It is pretty fun pulling out the flame thrower.
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    I was getting top 3 damage and healing in the 5 warfronts I played... Definitely gonna get the nerf. Though, I feel it would be for the best.

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    Well my thoughts are that Tactician is a poor support class yest it can throw out a heal but its buffs are weak since you can only do 1 at a time, not sure how they managed to release this as a support class feels more dps. VERY disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunitari696 View Post
    Well my thoughts are that Tactician is a poor support class yest it can throw out a heal but its buffs are weak since you can only do 1 at a time, not sure how they managed to release this as a support class feels more dps. VERY disappointed
    It fits more of a raid healing and aoe dps specialist more than anything. It does great in both of those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunitari696 View Post
    Well my thoughts are that Tactician is a poor support class yest it can throw out a heal but its buffs are weak since you can only do 1 at a time, not sure how they managed to release this as a support class feels more dps. VERY disappointed
    It's very supporty. While it may not buff you, like Bard or Archon, it pumps out some great healing and damage. It does also have a few cooldowns which will make it wanted(10% inc damage, 30% armor/resists, 30% damage reduction). It def fits the support role, it's just a very damage oriented support.

    On topic, I dont think it will be nerfed all too much. I remember they said it was a big AoE DPS soul that synergized with many other souls. I don't think its AoE is that out of control from what Ive done PvE wise.

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    If they did nerf it then they would have to change the mechanic of the torrents. Positioning in zerg land is easier because for some reason people can't spread out and in PS it gets worse because the environment funnels you. In a raid often the opposite happens, especially with the heals.

    I always had a concern because it seemed like Tac was going to have PvP issues in Warfronts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renley View Post
    It's very supporty. While it may not buff you, like Bard or Archon, it pumps out some great healing and damage. It does also have a few cooldowns which will make it wanted(10% inc damage, 30% armor/resists, 30% damage reduction). It def fits the support role, it's just a very damage oriented support.
    Interesting, didn't know about these cooldowns. I'm guessing they're unique as their bonus/duration don't match with similar ones from support souls?

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    I really don't think they will nerf it, it's still an interesting spec where you need to move into place to optimize your buffs/heals/dps. I think that adds enough of a level of difficulty that nerfing would make it an unused soul. I think a lot of rogues have seen how sick tac can be in WF's but you can def see the ones that understand how to use it vs the ones either still learning or hoping to get lucky and look pro on the damage and healing meters, I will hope they are learning still. I see it no different than the bloodstalker build, hard spec to run and cant be used all the time but when you can do it and do it will it's boss.

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    I think he's talking about the Remotes, which are self buff CDs
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