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    Hartsman ran through pax as bard/tactician.

    Here's the video: http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/330756978

    Here's his soultree: http://imgur.com/6MW8y

    Ability mouseovers: http://imgur.com/gim5e


    First impression looks like tactician is going to be a gimmicky damage soul with some heals. Time will only tell if this fits in well with the rogue calling or if it is simply too gimmicky to work one or more boss encounters like many of the rogue specs we've seen in the past. Worse case scenario is that tactician is a confused soul that doesn't really excel in dps or healing effectively being a "double bard" that is also necessary to bring to raids when forming raid comps.
    http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com...ed_454x374.jpg

    Tactician: Obviously you have the chemical bomb that you can't place in "necrotic core". Then the other ability we saw was "curative engine" which heals you for a small amount when hit.

    Bard: New ability called "cadenza" that does more damage than cadence ,but does not proc invigorated soul heals it seems. Then there is a toggle called "multiple oscillations" that makes them hit 3 targets ,but hit for 50% less. Important note that invigorated soul does not appear to have a ICD so it appeared he was healing himself for 1200 hps against 3 or more targets. Fanfares got boosted by 15 stat points. Anthem of glory now gives 1400 armor so maybe will be used in the future. Hahah.

    Harmonic distortion is perhaps the most interesting new ability. Two separate buffs that stack to 5 giving increased healing and damage. It appears they can be consumed to heal allies. New "coda of agony" does a sizeable amount of damage and it looks like something helps reset its cooldown.

    Obviously there are the QoL additions of less motif management and cadence on the move.
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    those barding abilities have me intrigued.. notice the 30m range on them?? hm... (apply this to cadence asap!) or make anybody else not using guns/bows/magic use a shorter range just for some semblance, if small, of realism..

    for comparison.. guns are effective up to 1.5+ km, bows can be effective for ~1.4km, the avg person can barely throw past ~45m with a grenade, throwing a satchel charge is out of the question (they weight about 20lbs.)

    but that's neither here nor there.

    can't wait to get my hands on this

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    Healing would be bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    Hartsman ran through pax as bard/tactician.

    Here's the video: http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/330756978

    Here's his soultree: http://imgur.com/6MW8y

    Ability mouseovers: http://imgur.com/gim5e


    First impression looks like tactician is going to be a healing/damage gimmicky confused soul.
    http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com...ed_454x374.jpg

    Tactician: Obviously you have the chemical bomb that you can't place in necrotic core. Then the other ability we saw was curative engine which heals you for a small amount when hit.
    The heal on being hit is pretty neat to bad it is a strippable buff...
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    everything on bard, and most of all our other souls is 100% purgeable.. in the end of a purgespam fest we are usually void of any buffs (except those from item usage)...

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    Right moving on, it does look like Tactician is the Harbinger for Rogues.
    Very versatile and may mix well with the rest of the souls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aguni View Post
    Right moving on, it does look like Tactician is the Harbinger for Rogues.
    Very versatile and may mix well with the rest of the souls.
    What makes you say that?

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    Where did Serrated Blades go? Don't see it in the Sin tree~

    Not too excited about Tactician myself, will wait for release and more info though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torme View Post
    Where did Serrated Blades go? Don't see it in the Sin tree~

    Not too excited about Tactician myself, will wait for release and more info though.
    I feel the exact same about tactician.

    About Serrated blades missing, oh wow that could be HUGE! I did notice magnify pain got lowered down to 2nd tier tree to be more in line with the crit mods of other callings. No more 49/17 specs.
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    Serrated Blades missing is a good thing in my opinion. It's a nightmare to balance and has caused all our melee dps specs to be tied to daggers and the assassin soul for best dps all this time.

    Also combo points being stored on the rogue instead of target is the best thing there. It's been a horrible nuisance and a big reason why our melee specs have trouble performing in a lot of fights.

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    Holy...

    Combo points being stored on the Rogue. Cadence on the move. Motifs refreshing with Finishers. Different types of "Cadence" to pick in battle. Actual class mechanics on the Bard!

    Could the Bard actually become... fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torme View Post
    Where did Serrated Blades go? Don't see it in the Sin tree~

    Not too excited about Tactician myself, will wait for release and more info though.
    Serrated still there its on 5th tier left to stealth icon but due to low image quality its hard to notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aileen View Post
    Serrated still there its on 5th tier left to stealth icon but due to low image quality its hard to notice.
    That doesn't look like serrated blades to me at lest on the screenshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyzyx View Post
    I did notice magnify pain got lowered down to 2nd tier tree to be more in line with the crit mods of other callings. No more 49/17 specs.
    Quote Originally Posted by aileen View Post
    Serrated still there its on 5th tier left to stealth icon but due to low image quality its hard to notice.
    Both of these changes are huge, 51 point build ranged souls will be a lot more powerful. Melee should overall improve as well but missing serrated blades will hurt.

    About tactician, he was only 15 points into tactician so I don't think you can get much about the new soul from what little we saw. Have to wait for it a full reveal to get more info.
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