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    Default Bard Motifs vs Auto-Cleanse

    How come Trion is completely OK with an auto-cleans macro so that you never even have to think about the target you are cleansing, but the moment bards figured out a way to auto cast their motifs in game the macro system was changed to cut it off?

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    cuz trion hates rogues, why else? also.... I hear bards w/ logitech keyboards can still macro motifs...

    Anyone remember killing general silgen the 1st week ROTP was out without using the cleanse macro?
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    I just wonder why, if they are so against the automation of hitting different buttons in game why is it OK to have a script auto-target for you, when that's not even possible with keyboard macros or automation software without some pretty fancy coding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skup View Post
    Anyone remember killing general silgen the 1st week ROTP was out without using the cleanse macro?
    Yup, we used to have the Archon just use his cleanse and it was prosauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riane View Post
    Yup, we used to have the Archon just use his cleanse and it was prosauce.
    So why doesn't anyone still do it this way?

    Oh right, they have a script that plays for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sariina View Post
    So why doesn't anyone still do it this way?

    Oh right, they have a script that plays for them.
    cause the archon cleanse misses if you're spread out/get tethered too far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sariina View Post
    So why doesn't anyone still do it this way?

    Oh right, they have a script that plays for them.
    It's not a script and motifs aren't hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riane View Post
    It's not a script and motifs aren't hard.
    It's not hard to do, just so annoying that I want to rip my fingers off with an old pair of plyers rather than play a bard. The point is as soon as someone found a way in game to automate them, even though they had to hit a button each time then Trion changed the whole system around specificallly to make bards miserable again.... yet people who don't even have to think about targeting anymore and have a macro (which is a type of script) get a free pass and don't even have to bother playing at all with their free pass.

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    One is akin to botting. It is in which the program plays for you.
    The second is in which you are still in control and trigger the process.

    For example, I like utilizing a mouseoverui macro for casting Reflective Command on Laethys, I can always simply click on a name and hit the ability, but mouseoverui removes the clicking part and I can simply move my cursor over to the name, use the ability, and it triggers.

    I am still in control, I am still triggering it.

    On the other hand, if I simply hit a button and my character proceeds to cast reflective command every 10s on Laethys' target without any additional input on my part, that is considered botting.

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    You can still macro motifs using keybind. It wasn't taken away you're just using the wrong method
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewarwoo View Post
    You can still macro motifs using keybind. It wasn't taken away you're just using the wrong method
    I get it, I really do. What I'm trying to say is as soon as a way was discovered to automate game play it was immediatly removed by Trion for Rogues, but mages and CLerics get to have their cleanses auto targeted and don't even need to think. The script automatically picks their target and cleanses for them, which is much more in depth than casting your motifs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sariina View Post
    I get it, I really do. What I'm trying to say is as soon as a way was discovered to automate game play it was immediatly removed by Trion for Rogues, but mages and CLerics get to have their cleanses auto targeted and don't even need to think. The script automatically picks their target and cleanses for them, which is much more in depth than casting your motifs.
    It doesn't choose a target for you - it cleanses from top to bottom, so in theory you could be wasting time cleansing crap debuffs off people and missing the important ones. When I pvp, I'm looking for MB/TI and transmogs - if I were to simply spam the "silgen macro" I'd be oom from all the imbeciles in my raid clanging away spamming abilities while debuffed.

    There's a significant difference, but yes wasting 5 keybinds to motifs isn't really my idea of fun either.
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    Trion I have to be awake to play bard, clearly this is unintended.

    Please fix this soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicold View Post
    Trion I have to be awake to play bard, clearly this is unintended.

    Please fix this soon.
    "Trion, I and my fellow players above have never played a Bard and are completely clueless about it, so I would rather sit here and make unfounded remarks and accusations rather than provide useful input, play the class to see for ourselves, and in general not be ****** bags" was this what you were really looking to say?

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    With expansion codas will refresh motiffs or something like that so is a non issue
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